brickdeleche Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I don't know if there is some kind of other post about this and idc at all but I've been thinking for long time about pve shit. I was wondering if the pve nerf in bg/arenas should be introduced outside them too. Over the past few months I've been looking particularly locks and rogues going full pve one shoting basically everything they saw in front of them, giving the targets no chance to at least run from them. I've never played with pve except pve cloack (outside bgs/arenas) and i feel like people are creating only rogues for example because they do a lot of dmg (there is a post of Anneha down here in the topics of this section if you wanna see an example of the dmg I refer to.) And well I've basically wanted to know other people's opinion about pve outside bg/arena. My question would be if you think pve should get nerfed (example: pve trinkets[which give 10-16k agility for example to the rogues]) I've been playing in Gurubashi Arena for a long time now and I feel like it should. I'm mostly playing healer (no, not because I'm a girl) and as exception of my main priest, all my other healers die in 5 seconds if some pve rogue attacks me full burst.(not even trying) I don't see the logic in allowing players to use pve gear when the pve is only for dungeons/raids at all.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroz Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Well, kinda...: it's blizzlike. It's a Blizzard problem PandaWoW won't change something which is blizz-like :D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LICHER Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 brickdeleche, the same situation was at retail.Rogue are OP anyway.Just look at this video from retail : Full pve combat rogue killing target just from 1 killing spree.Do i need to explain what can do sub? Pve abuse is profit in world pvp.Even more,at retail pvp stat's was usuless outside Bg's / Arenas,so pve players did more damage.Hope you understand this. Video: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garodar Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Well, kinda...: PandaWoW won't change something which is blizz-like :D Why do u quote these admins all the time... and where do u even find them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickdeleche Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 brickdeleche, the same situation was at retail.Rogue are OP anyway.Just look at this video from retail : Full pve combat rogue killing target just from 1 killing spree.Do i need to explain what can do sub? Pve abuse is profit in world pvp.Even more,at retail pvp stat's was usuless outside Bg's / Arenas,so pve players did more damage.Hope you understand this. Video: LICHER, I know rogues are OP even without pve (can't see the vid, not at home) but if you give to an OP class bugged pve, the damage that class is going to do shouldn't be allowed. I mean do you think it is normal to do 200k-300k eviscerate? Because I don't think so. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroz Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Why do u quote these admins all the time... and where do u even find them? Well, it's over, admins are predictable; from their posts, I can tell how do they think and how will they reply :D Oh, and btw, quotes find me, there's no such place where you could get them, I just read the forums carefully :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LICHER Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) brickdeleche, it's fine.Saw the same damage at Ptr.Chainz did 500k from eviscerate,so don't worry - it's not OP xD.As far as i know - there is no sense to nerf it,cuz it's already brocken.I mean : pve passive stat's doesen't work at all.Many pve gear are comlpetly not usefull.For example : 4 part's of rogue's pve set should give +10% damage of killing spree ( w/o pve - 45k last hit, w pve - 50k last hit).Idk what are you waiting from this thread,but all i can recomend you is to fight as op class or don't fight at all.(If the only problem is pve gear).:dance: Edited May 21, 2016 by LICHER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroz Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I guess that's the reason why many players of WoW left and hated MoP according to the statistics; as far as I read and watched videos, the amount of damage and the cc-chain every class does is tremendous! And players hated it :D However, I love MoP, other expansions suck :D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LICHER Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) Kroz, true.I love Mop for that.:beer: Edited May 21, 2016 by LICHER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickdeleche Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 brickdeleche, it's fine.Saw the same damage at Ptr.Chainz did 500k from eviscerate,so don't worry - it's not OP xD.As far as i know - there is no sense to nerf it,cuz it's already brocken.I mean : pve passive stat's doesen't work at all.Many pve gear are comlpetly not usefull.For example : 4 part's of rogue's pve set should give +10% damage of killing spree ( w/o pve - 45k last hit, w pve - 50k last hit).Idk what are you waiting from this thread,but all i can recomend you is to fight as op class or don't fight at all.(If the only problem is pve gear).:dance: My intention, was to ask people what they thought about that topic, what I basically wrote and you didn't read. Ok so me for example, I have to accept that rogues hit me 500k because pve trinkets are broken? That's what you say? Nice server then. Then you guys ask why people leave. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LICHER Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 brickdeleche, i understood your idea from the begin.That's was just a rhetorical question.I said,that not all of pve gear is work's fine.Just for you to knowt : there is only 2 trinket's (for rogue's) that give proc's correctly.Other one's don't give them at all.Those 2 are not op,same stats as at retail.Ahhh,idk how to explain you more,but that's just pve.Player's should do that damage,nothing supernatural... :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garodar Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 My intention, was to ask people what they thought about that topic, what I basically wrote and you didn't read. Ok so me for example, I have to accept that rogues hit me 500k because pve trinkets are broken? That's what you say? Nice server then. Then you guys ask why people leave. A: Changing mindset of devs about not keeping this server as blizzlike as possible is not... Possible. B: It was that way on retail. The real issue is rogue damage, not pve trinks. Accept it, or dont do world pve at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickdeleche Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) A: Changing mindset of devs about not keeping this server as blizzlike as possible is not... Possible. B: It was that way on retail. The real issue is rogue damage, not pve trinks. Accept it, or dont do world pve at all. Ye okey I'm going to accept to die in 2 seconds because no one is able to make something against it. And.. LICHER, Difference between pvp and pve? Difference of use? So difficult to understand that pve is for pve and pvp for pvp? Not op? No, that's why a rogue with those trinkets do 2x more damage then others. But okey whatever. And don't say it's not true because me as healer I live it 24/7 Even Chainz says trinkets are broken. Edited May 21, 2016 by brickdeleche 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LICHER Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 brickdeleche, there's no need to be upset.People use pve for world pvp,to be kind of more powerfull,than somebody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroz Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Ye okey I'm going to accept to die in 2 seconds because no one is able to make something against it. And.. LICHER, Difference between pvp and pve? Difference of use? So difficult to understand that pve is for pve and pvp for pvp? Not op? No, that's why a rogue with those trinkets do 2x more damage then others. But okey whatever. And don't say it's not true because me as healer I live it 24/7 Even Chainz says trinkets are broken. 2 seconds? pffft, how about less than a second? (0.5) half a second :D btw, it's alpha legion, so... yeah! and one more thing, the demon-hunter as far as blizzard stated, it's like a combination of rogues and monks, so now you need to worry about another Over-Powered class! ~_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickdeleche Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 brickdeleche, there's no need to be upset.People use pve for world pvp,to be kind of more powerfull,than somebody. I'm not upset at all. But it isn't nice that a moderator says to you that your topic isn't how to say it necessary? Am.. Stupid? Indirectly obviously. But okey I'll just accept that in this server pve gear is used for exact the wrong thing, that classes aren't equal and that no one is gonna change that and healers like me have to fuck ourselves and live with that. (Not mad) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickdeleche Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 2 seconds? pffft, how about less than a second? (0.5) half a second :D btw, it's alpha legion, so... yeah! and one more thing, the demon-hunter as far as blizzard stated, it's like a combination of rogues and monks, so now you need to worry about another Over-Powered class! ~_^ That was exactly what I wanted, thank you for telling me :heart: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garodar Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Its "WORLD PVP" only. Who... gives... a... fuck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickdeleche Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 Exactly PvP not PvE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LICHER Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) Chainzrow, sometimes yes.But also they use it to spend less time killing others. brickdeleche, just except it.Im telling you the truth,don't even think about you something bad.Piece.:pardon: Edited May 21, 2016 by LICHER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickdeleche Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 Chainzrow, sometimes yes.But also use it to spend less time killing others. brickdeleche, just except it.Im telling you the truth,don't even think about you something bad.Piece.:pardon: You just accepted that you said that my thread is useless, nice mod. And well I "except" to die no problem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frakerober Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 this is not a mop problem, ( ) (lich king patch), whit 2 hit he killed u, back then things was a bit more balanced than now, and pls, rogues are op like every other char, they do a lot more damage but is what it is, and since this is a retail problem, u wont get any fix in here, just try cc/kite as much u can, pretty much every rogue in here try to 1shoot u on start of the match, if u manage to kite right there, u might live a bit longer, i wanted to show u a dk video back on LK too that actually kill u in 1 shoot, pretty much hit u 25k (normal hp back then) but i couldn't find it,any way, just adapt and learn to counter, otherwise u will be bored af Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickdeleche Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 And well playing healer since cataclysm I know how to cc xd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garodar Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 OK so we gona use wow life facebook? gona stay afk and wait for smtng to happen?Pretty much that reply is like ( fak off with ur shits none care that pve is broken and we hit for 500k+ if u dont want that to happen go bgs and world pvp became world pve world of rogues pretty much pissing everyone off btw wtf reply is that complety retarted ) staff disrepect players i dont like that Ur profile pic says "I dont really give a fuck". Live up to it then... in this case. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickdeleche Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 ^^ but i give a fuck about brick so The only one :-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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