Veynnzy Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 В теме до сих пор нет доказательств, сделанных с кросс сервера. For Heisenberg
Noneedholy Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 В теме до сих пор нет доказательств, сделанных с кросс сервера. For Heisenberg Yes it is a proof. Stop being retarded and speak english. Shows us already that you want shit to NOT get fixed by just talking russian. Gtfo
Repitchx Posted June 12, 2017 Author Posted June 12, 2017 В теме до сих пор нет доказательств, сделанных с кросс сервера. For Heisenberg https://www.twitch.tv/videos/149025266 wtb fix asap. deadmouse? nah, never. need heisenberg to fix this as deadmouse only listens to veynnzy.
Repitchx Posted August 9, 2017 Author Posted August 9, 2017 I think this is fixed, will test right now to be sure. on QA it seems to be fine tho. EDIT: still bugged.
behindqq Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) Can I have a stupid question here, please? what's the PPM you're talking about? Is that a some sort of lockout for procs when the maximum is already reached? I think "approximately" means you can get more or something around that number, am I wrong here? Or does it really lockout any procs during the current time frame? Edited August 9, 2017 by behindqq
Repitchx Posted August 9, 2017 Author Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) Can I have a stupid question here, please? what's the PPM you're talking about? Is that a some sort of lockout for procs when the maximum is already reached? I think "approximately" means you can get more or something around that number, am I wrong here? Or does it really lockout any procs during the current time frame? MAX 5 procs per min, but you may also get less, perhaps 3-4 as it's a 10% proc chance. Proof is there, read main post :p Edited August 9, 2017 by Repitchx
behindqq Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) MAX 5 procs per min, but you may also get less, perhaps 3-4 as it's a 10% proc chance. Proof is there, read main post :p It sounds weird according to my experience from retail. when I see PPM on the item and it says "approximately procs 1.8 times per minute" I take it as a middle value, not the maximum. I got a warrior legendary ring on my warrior which is having 1.8 PPM but I'm experiencing it the way different. Sometimes I can get three procs during twenty seconds and no procs during the whole encounter. I wonder where did you get those numbers for MAXIMUM? I'd like to see them too. - - - Добавлено - - - AH. I see. Quite solid. Edited August 9, 2017 by behindqq
Repitchx Posted August 9, 2017 Author Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) It sounds weird according to my experience from retail. when I see PPM on the item and it says "approximately procs 1.8 times per minute" I take it as a middle value, not the maximum. I got a warrior legendary ring on my warrior which is having 1.8 PPM but I'm experiencing it the way different. Sometimes I can get three procs during twenty seconds and no procs during the whole encounter. I wonder where did you get those numbers for MAXIMUM? I'd like to see them too. - - - Добавлено - - - AH. I see. Quite valid. I keep telling ppl this: stealth nerf and hidden description. I hate that i have to repeat myself so much in 2017. Does pom rof say it has an ICD of 2 sec? No. Hidden description. Does it say u should be able to use hand of freedom in stuns/wyvern? No. Hidden description Does it say blood horror should break on damage? No, but blood horror is special (normally horror effects should not break on dmg). Hidden description again. Zzzz Edited August 9, 2017 by Repitchx
behindqq Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 I hate that i have to repeat myself Sorry that you're not that much important person for me so I would have to note every single word you say. I was just wondering where I can find this hidden description on my own.
Repitchx Posted August 9, 2017 Author Posted August 9, 2017 Sorry that you're not that much important person for me so I would have to note every single word you say. I was just wondering where I can find this hidden description on my own. It's hard, it comes down to game knowledge mostly. This is why it's hard to report some bugs. *cough warrior cough*
Worstworld Posted August 18, 2017 Posted August 18, 2017 still bugged. A video would help. ------------------------------- Seems like nightfall proc is increased, the most mana/soul shards you have in the moment of the proc. (The lower mana/ soul shards, lower is the proc chance) Edit: Had just tested world: Xfun, In 1 minute i got 2 procs only.. Might be just a cross bug? More tests: First proc: 0.1 sec ( Could not print ) + 2 procs: http://prntscr.com/ga895w (first 30 seconds) last proc: 1 minute http://prntscr.com/ga89hj Total of 4 procs Again re-tests: First 5 seconds: 2 procs http://prntscr.com/ga89y7 No procs anymore: http://prntscr.com/ga8ads Total of 2 procs - - - Updated - - - I also want to note that just because it's 5 PPM' date=' does not mean it will ALWAYS give 5 procs. It has a 10% proc chance and on top of that 5 PPM. So sometimes you might be SUPER unlucky and maybe only get 2-3, but most of the time it's 4-5)[/quote'] It should be like this or this is an description of pandawow atm? - Both are ok. 2-3 4-5
Repitchx Posted August 18, 2017 Author Posted August 18, 2017 A video would help. ------------------------------- Seems like nightfall proc is increased, the most mana/soul shards you have in the moment of the proc. (The lower mana/ soul shards, lower is the proc chance) Edit: Had just tested world: Xfun, In 1 minute i got 2 procs only.. Might be just a cross bug? More tests: First proc: 0.1 sec ( Could not print ) + 2 procs: http://prntscr.com/ga895w (first 30 seconds) last proc: 1 minute http://prntscr.com/ga89hj Total of 4 procs Again re-tests: First 5 seconds: 2 procs http://prntscr.com/ga89y7 No procs anymore: http://prntscr.com/ga8ads Total of 2 procs - - - Updated - - - It should be like this or this is an description of pandawow atm? - Both are ok. 2-3 4-5 dont need to post a video. i just tested in world. started my timer soon as i got a proc and waited 1 min. it procced 6-7 times. its just rng, but bugged atm.
Repitchx Posted October 7, 2017 Author Posted October 7, 2017 dont need to post a video. i just tested in world. started my timer soon as i got a proc and waited 1 min. it procced 6-7 times. its just rng, but bugged atm. still bugged, can some1 fix? would be sick
Autschbatsch Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 How about fixing this for a change? Is it that hard to do or wtf is the problem here?
Autschbatsch Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 How about fixing mechanics and spells intead of 2/10 miscs and pet battles huh?
Repitchx Posted February 16, 2018 Author Posted February 16, 2018 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/149025266 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/149025266 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/149025266 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/149025266 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/149025266 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/149025266 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/149025266 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/149025266 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/149025266 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/149025266 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/149025266 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/149025266 HEHE
Developers Neff Posted February 21, 2018 Developers Posted February 21, 2018 Found some info from Blizzard blue posts during MoP beta. https://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/227466-beta-class-balance-analysis/#post1267 If you recall, early on in this thread, I talked about how we sometimes gloss over certain mechanics in tooltips, for the same of simplicity and understandability. This is one of those cases. A single shard is a really significant chunk of resource, so it can’t be a very high proc rate. But with a low proc rate, it’s very random, meaning that you regularly get fights where you get relatively few shards, and some where you get a ton of shards. We wanted it to still be somewhat random, so we went with a somewhat complex system under the hood that creates "smoothed" randomness, with a simple sounding cover on it (the tooltip). We didn’t expect players to really notice at all, so huge kudos to you; what you describe is almost exactly how it works. It’s actually a stacking 2% chance per Corruption tick, which averages out to an 11.7% proc chance. It does indeed count all Corruption ticks from all sources. I believe in your current build, it only is giving 1% on the first tick instead of 2%, but that’ll be fixed in the next build. We don't think every proc needs this kind of treatment. Nightfall is kind of a big deal, so excessive RNG could cause balance or rotational problems. According to this info, there is no PPM at all, but have 2% stacking proc chance per Corruption tick, instead of flat 10%. Will be +- the same amount of procs, but with less RNG. Also found a bug that all Corruptions from Seed of corruption (with Soulburn) can trigger Nightfall. If we use it on 2+ targets, we will get a lot more procs, than intended. - - - Добавлено - - - Fixed, will be applied after update. 4
Autschbatsch Posted March 11, 2018 Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) According to this info' date=' there is no PPM at all, but have 2% stacking proc chance per Corruption tick, instead of flat 10%[/quote'] I tested this quite a lot on QA so far and it seems that you get 4 to 8 procs per minute with a static value of 30% haste. Feel free to test yourself. I did not quite understand what was exactely meant with "stacking" so I read the blue posts myself to figure. Later on in the thread: https://i.gyazo.com/6fc16ca169b36615ff1807d3364ae61f.png + ? I am not sure about this topic, maybe I misread something, if so I'd like to be corrected. I find a lot of different statements of different sources. ( I am aware of the changelog, but obviously this mechanic DID not work according to tooltip/changelogs ) There is information missing about Malefic Grasp and Nightfall in 5.4.8. Edited March 24, 2018 by Autschbatsch
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