10% reduced stun time gem+orc racial+frost presence bug

[warlockenjoyer]

1. https://imgur.com/a/Ob8qSky (screenshots of the 3 things mentioned in the tittle)

2. they dont stack properly (im not sure which one of the three is the problem or if they are all the problem)

3. they should stack properly, explanation of what is happening vs what should happen in this example with a 3second stun: https://imgur.com/a/QLVh3gI

4. fun realm, probably cross realm too

5. 5/10 i guess

 

video testing it: https://gofile.io/d/bZ3p57

screenshots of when the stun starts in each scenario to see it's duration: https://imgur.com/a/fPB9l6w

Edited March 9, 2023 by warlockenjoyer

[warlockenjoyer]

4. but i wont provide any proofs how they should

5. instead, i'll attach my chat with some dude

 

do you know how to do maths? calculate 15%+10%+20%, there is only two ways to calculate this, all together or one after the other

[Neff]

Yea, looks like gem / orc passive shouldn't stack with frost presence.

https://web.archive.org/web/20141104095218/http://www.wowhead.com/spell=20573#comments

From first comment:

Frost Presence doesn't stack (according to spell details) but will be included for the sake of comparison, and in difference to Lionhearted is at least connected to the actual character.

[Neff]

Made some changes, will be applied after update.

Now bonuses from gem / orc passive will stack multiplicatively, instead of additively (according to numbers from wowhead comment).

Frost presence still won't stack with other bonuses.

[warlockenjoyer]

On 3/10/2023 at 8:08 PM, Neff said:

Yea, looks like gem / orc passive shouldn't stack with frost presence.

Hardiness

From first comment:

 

http://static.icy-veins.com/forum-links/icons/inv_helmet_23.jpgHardiness decreases the duration of stuns by 15% and stacks with similar effects

https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/2110-pvp-race-guide-54/#forum-anchor-The-Math

Edited March 29, 2023 by warlockenjoyer

[warlockenjoyer]

i found this on a guide about racials for 5.4 patch, it specifies that it stacks with similar effects but it doesn't say how it should stack, so it seems it should stack with dk frost presence and also with the 10% gem but idk where to find what kind of stacking should be happening

Edited March 29, 2023 by warlockenjoyer

[warlockenjoyer]

i saw that in this changes it mentions a modification: 

"Bonuses from the effects of reducing the duration of control, for example, the special gem Powerful Primal Diamond and the racial ability Hardiness are now multiplied, not added together."

what does that mean?

Edited March 29, 2023 by warlockenjoyer

[Ypypy]

Tested.

TinyPhreak from wowhead did a good job, tested all the spells, wrote the timers and update all info to 5.4.8. patch.
 

В 29.03.2023 в 13:33, warlockenjoyer сказал:

i found this on a guide about racials

Wow, someone create guide without proof, where calculations, timers about stacking... Lol. And do you trust him more?)

 

В 29.03.2023 в 13:38, warlockenjoyer сказал:

what does that mean?

10%+15%=25% - that’s additive stacking.
With multiplicative stacking - (0,85*0,9)=0,765=76,5%; 100%-76,5%=23,5%