About The Names @Зилиус

[Weegee]

So you are telling me That my friend got Muted for 7 Days Cause of her Name? Do you realize How many people Buy and Sell Their Characters? Do you know How many Russian people are using Characters Which have Chinese / Latin Names? And same goes for the US People which are using characters which they Bought from web shop with Russian / Chinese names? And not to mention that She got Reported Under a section named "Нарушители" Aka Violators. What type of Violation is a Question Which appears to be About Transmog? This is not a Valid Mute considering that He Gave you a Screenshot of a Chat Box in a Copy / paste addon (Ofc its not up to me to decide) . How can you not ask for an Screen shot From the CHAT in the lower left corner, cause He edited the Text And made it Appear like She said something in Russian Meanwhile she doesn't know to say anything on Russian. On the Screen Shot " http://rghost.net/6tjqZXfGn.view " You can see that He Sent a Chat Box from the addon and not from the Lower Left Corner cause the addon allows him to edit the message I can record and show you how to do it and i can get any player banned / muted cause of it. So if you could Un-Mute her it would be Fair towards her.

** How can it be fair towards her ? ** Cause she could have Replied with "Sorry i don't understand russian" And with addon it was changed to the Transmog question**

 

** http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=148925 That's the Thread where she got Reported**

 

And What does it matter is she has a Chinese name? People come from all over the world to Play here , Not to get muted cause of Their names....

You can disassemble the letters form the character making screen to prevent this. And why does it matter if he has a Chinese name and he is speaking in a different language? What if there's someone who is from china and he used google translate Or he learned Russian ? You can prevent this too if you disassemble The Character selling. So if you can it wold be nice to Remove the mute from the player which didn't do it.

** OH am i gonna be muted now too cause i typed the name Зилиус which is in Ru Letters and im not russian?**

And im pretty sure that you should have Gave her a Warning and a Name-Change instead of just Muting her.

And Besides There's No rules Which say that If you are not Russian Don't Use Russian names and If ur Not Chinese Don't Use Chinese Names.... Therefore in this Thread " http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=149337 " Where Buka said "Then you shouldn't use this nickname" .... Like the fuck ? Now we have Restrictions Of which names we should use? OOH Im Sorry What about the Character Selling which i mentioned Before -_-" Make The rules Which are the same on Retail Instead of Crap like this Happening.

Edited September 1, 2015 by Weegee

[Nyah]

Shouldn't he/she be posting it here?

 

Anyway, I do agree with you, that was risky from whenever applied the punishment to consider the addon instead of the actual chat window.

 

And from what I know, they canceled that rule about obscene nicks/special symbols on the nicks, thus it should not be mutable/bannable.

 

Just saying, I might be wrong.

 

Also on this thread Nemifest makes an affirmation about that transmogging with a third party program is indeed allowed(and shows us some threads on which he did so) but saying that you can use it is mutable(rules, right?).

Edited September 1, 2015 by Nyah

[Weegee]

First i want to hear why did she got muted then ill tell her to Post it @ Ban/Mute appeal section. And about CE I have seen a Thread where GM Said "Any use of cheats are forbidden. The question bannable it or no should not even arise. Read the rules." " http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=145044 "

And Why would someone be Muted If he has a Name in Chinese? That makes No sense.

[Nyah]

http://i.imgur.com/uyFf9Z7.png

 

Just leaving this here.

[Weegee]

Maybe Buka ment Xmog is allowed like an IN-Game xmog not a CE Xmog.... Idk but a lot of people use CE Xmog so ye... The best way to get that done is to ask an Admin / Dev.

[kebab]

I've read the other post and it seems mighty unfair that that person should be muted simply because the name and the language spoken don't coincide There are several other players on this server that have Chinese, Japanese, Russian characters in their names so does this mean that they are going to be muted as well? . This does make me wonder how Russian speaking guilds are allowed English names like "best regards" and what about Russian players trying to speak English to your English community are they to be banned as well? Are the Devs/mods saying that the English speaking players must not speak to the Russian, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese counterparts? Are you saying we must make an alt with the name in the language we wish to speak ingame? I mean no disrespect to the person in charge of these things but do you really think that this makes any sense? I for example speak 3 languages as do many of the player base so how are we supposed to follow these rules that make no sense and differ from those of the blizzard version of the game? I simply wish to understand why this happened and how to resolve the situation.

[Weegee]

Yeah... an Un-mute towards 艾丝提诶吾艾 would be fine Since the chat-box which he sent is fake , he can prove me wrong if he sends the Legit chat from lower left corner. But yeah a Name and The language which you are speaking has no Violations since people can use Google translate, Even i use google translate to ask some stuff on Russian -_- and like she said she's not Chinese nor Russian , she just google-d and used her own unique nickname There shouldn't be any restrictions towards people while using their names and giving them a 7 Day Mute Give them a warning and a Re-Name , same thing when someone has an Obscene / Offensive name. Cause like i said 5 times already.... People SELL And BUY Characters.... You should have muted every Russian with a Latin name and every English speaking Russian if that's how this goes.

[Buka]

First:

I don't know you and your situation. I don't care who play on your account. But I see topic with complaint and see that Zilius done all by rules. Read them.

What I see in complaint: player have chinese (or japanese) name and speak russian in chat. It's not a google translate. Russian haven't chinese letters on keyboard. And we have rule: player speaking russian with alt-code in the name will be muted.

It's not fobidden to speak russian, it's forbidden to use these nicknames if you speak russian in the game.

Idk why this rule work only with russian speaking players.

It's not my rule and it's not my opinion.

 

Second:

We don't ban people for transmogrification. It's not my opinion, it's administrator's rule.

But we ban people if they use cheats and recommended to other players to use cheats (Nyah know what I mean).

It's not my own words, it's administrator's words and we just quote them everytime.

It's not my rule and not my opinion too.

 

If you want ask Zilius, his opinion - write to him pm. But he speak english worse than I. Better to say, he almost don't speak english.

[Stayfjurt]

First :

 

Screenshot is taken with ADDON { you can edit anything in addons } , if not , every 12 y/o kid can use photoshop, cause i cant write in russian.

 

Second :

 

It's not fobidden to speak russian, it's forbidden to use these nicknames if you speak russian in the game.

 

I know its not your rule but its rly racist...

 

Third :

 

Why whole acc muted ? other chars have english nicknames..

 

Fourth :

 

even Aphabet { A B C D E F G .. } are alt characters : http://www.alt-codes.net/ so according to rule , any russian guy with english name { alt characters } can be banned for speaking russian.. yaaay perfect rule ! 10/10.. now finally i can report 90 % of server

Edited September 2, 2015 by Stayfjurt

[Nyah]

[quote=Stayfjurt;932513

Third :

 

Why whole acc muted ? other chars have english nicknames..

 

On the trinity core compilation I had on my 3.3.5. there was this one command that instead of muting the entire account it instead muted a specific character.

 

I doubt they have this one here.

[Weegee]

Well Buka , Since like you said Zilus Barely knows English and almost doesn't know English at all , can you tell him since you are speaking Russian that the Screenshot where it Appears that Chinese Monk was talking Russian Was Faked cause it was Edited in Add-on. No one played on her account... And i'm not gonna lie that Whole account mute instead of only Character mute is really Stupid. So if you could tell Zilus that it was a mistake and that the Monk doesn't Have any knowledge of Russian language Or what so ever. And if its possible that a character named " 艾丝提诶吾艾 " Gets an Un-Mute. Thank you for your time.

[Buka]

First :

This screenshot have all requirements. Yes, it can be fake. But we don't know that.

I know its not your rule but its rly racist...

Only toward russians...

Why whole acc muted ?

It's normally.

even Aphabet { A B C D E F G .. } are alt characters : http://www.alt-codes.net/ so according to rule ' date=' any russian guy with english name { alt characters } can be banned for speaking russian.. yaaay perfect rule ! 10/10.. now finally i can report 90 % of server[/quote']

It's stupid. Russian players see these alt-codes. I can't explane it, but it's easy to see. We have other fonts.

 

Weegee, yes, I can speak with Zilius. But we haven't proofs that this screenshot is fake. I'll check account logs if your acc was hacked. But... anyway he see your IP and logs too and he can reply "they are not chinese, why they use chinese names?"

Better I'll ask Zeox about that and about this rule. He can give a final answer. If he want.

[Nyah]

This screenshot have all requirements. Yes, it can be fake. But we don't know that.

 

That's what he's doubting, he's contesting the automatic assumption that the screenshot is indeed valid.

 

Anyway, how long is this mute?

 

Wouldn't it be done alredy?

[Buka]

Anyway' date=' how long is this mute?[/quote']

7 days

 

I wait for an Zeox's answer.

[Stayfjurt]

buka thank you for clearing all, atleast you are comunicating with others and solving their problems, it doesnt matter if i get un-mute or not , but this rule suppose to be checked little bit cause its really weird

[Buka]

Okay, Zeox gave his answer.

Character unmuted.