Furmetal Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) Realm tested - Fun Date tested - 31/10/2015 Spell - Unstable Affliction Description - For some reason, which I did not figure out yet, the damage is way higher than it should(even higher than the tooltip's display). See spoiler for details. Overall Status Number of ticks = 7 Tooltip = 31472 over 14 sec My mastery = 41.68% My Spell Power = 14435 PvP Power = 27.41% Each tick = 6429 (pve dummy) 6429*7 = 45003 ≠ 31472 Spell formula = 2170(+ 203% SP) over 14 sec 14435 * 2.03 = 29303.05 2170 + 29303.05 = 31473.05(no mastery) 31473.05 * 1.4168 = 44591,01724 44591, higher than what the tooltip says(31472) and lower than it is dealing(45003) Spell's dispell is bugged too, the damage is also higher than it should Dispell = [310 ( + 29% SP) + * 8] 14435 * 0,29 = 4186.15 [310 + 4186.15 * 8] [310 + 33489.2] 33799.2 * 1,2741(PvP Power) = 43063.5 43063.5 * 0,8011 = 34498.1 43063.5 - 34498.1 = 8565.4 Crit = 2x 8565.4 * 2 = 17130.8 But currently it is dealing 26064 Note - Numbers were rounded. Note - Tests done with a 330 ilvl warlock, without any gems, enchants or procs. The Mistweaver is 496 ilvl and without any gems/enchants. How it should work - Damage should be applied properly. Priority - 8/10, dispelling hits almost as hard as a Chaos Bolt at higher gear and some procs(I'm talking about some 150k+ hits) and afflictions are, in some situations, more viable than destruction for damaging(specially for affliction/restoration shaman comps, thing that wasn't that strong on Blizzard). Comments - I find it curious how the tooltip is wrong. If you find anything wrong with the formula, please write in the comments clearly and if possible write down your math. Screenshots http://i.imgur.com/YmdcLLI.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Br2ccQP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/67KLjRd.jpg Edited November 1, 2015 by Furmetal 1 Link to comment
Noneedholy Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 also people told me haunt hits too hard Link to comment
Garodar Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 also people told me haunt hits too hard I think Haunt is fine. I didn't see any real difference between old 5.4 retail and pandawow here. Link to comment
safety Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Number of ticks = !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 7[ATTACH=CONFIG]95906[/ATTACH] Link to comment
safety Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 [ATTACH=CONFIG]95914[/ATTACH] spell power=38424 mastery=89.98% (2170+2.03*38424)*1.8998=152308, 152308/7=21758 Link to comment
Saylance Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Normal tick = ((2170+(18970*203%))+45.86%)/7 = 8476.36 Damage on dispell = ((((((310+(18970*29%))*8)*2)+45.86%)+34.62%)-80% = 36514.81 All work as should /close Link to comment
Noneedholy Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Normal tick = ((2170+(18970*203%))+45.86%)/7 = 8476.36 Damage on dispell = ((((((310+(18970*29%))*8)*2)+45.86%)+34.62%)-80% = 36514.81 All work as should /close not closed. Link to comment
Furmetal Posted October 31, 2015 Author Share Posted October 31, 2015 Normal tick = ((2170+(18970*203%))+45.86%)/7 = 8476.36 Damage on dispell = ((((((310+(18970*29%))*8)*2)+45.86%)+34.62%)-80% = 36514.81 All work as should /close Why are the number of ticks 7? I can clearly see in my combat log that it does damage 8 times. Also, if it is indeed 7, then why did you use the coefficient 8 at "((((((310+(18970*29%))*8)" on dispell? Please clarify. 1 Link to comment
Noneedholy Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 maybe he wants do defend his class. idk 1 Link to comment
safety Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) The damage is calculated from a base amount of ticks that have this spell =7. Eighth+ teak gives you by the speed. Speed adds extra ticks to the base quantity, with damage equal tick at zero speed. And Dispel The factor of 8 is due to the fact that it does not affect the speed. So conceived developers Edited October 31, 2015 by safety Link to comment
Saylance Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) Furmetal, http://forum.pandawow.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=95906&d=1446290083 Calculation damage by ticks, base on static number. For UA its = 7 tick When you reach 7.15% haste, your UA grant +1 tick = 8 tick, but calculation always based on 7 ticks. Even when you reach 13 ticks, it will calculate base on 7 ticks, and give 13 real ticks on target with damage of 7 static ticks. It was very stupid logic, that +hase = -dots damage should +haste = +dot damage All afli warlock formulas was tested at 07.2014 Stop make fake themes. Edited October 31, 2015 by Saylance Link to comment
Furmetal Posted November 1, 2015 Author Share Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) All afli warlock formulas was tested at 07.2014 Stop make fake themes. It's my job(even though I'm not paid or anything for this, so I'm not really sure why my position is called "tester" instead of "bug tracker manager" or something like that since this is what most do)to test everything, this also means re-tests. I also did not know that this was alredy tested. Also, I ran the tests again with 0 haste and still got a damage difference. Check main post for update. Edited November 1, 2015 by Furmetal Link to comment
safety Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 It is time for a long time to understand that the tooltip does not include mastery. And dispel is part of the spell and it also affects by mastery. Link to comment
Noneedholy Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) Stop make fake themes. why so aggressiv lol ? Seems like someone is playing lock here LMAO - - - Updated - - - And dispel is part of the spell and it also affects by mastery. No it doesnt ! i asked multiple locks right now who are playing active on retail about ~2.5 mmr and as soon as i have time i gonna try to find someone who can test it. There is no changelog and even in WoD it doesnt increase the dispel dmg. @Furmetal tell me if the dispel dmg is affected by mastery. If yes, it's bugged as i said as soon as i find someone from retail who can test it, i will. But before i found an old post where they removed mastery from the dispel dmg because the dmg was "too much" http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2456451267 ^ bluepost Edited November 1, 2015 by Noneedholy Link to comment
safety Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 prist got 160к+ from dispel ua - its Done similar to our, and you url fo patch 4.0.6 there was a different mechanic dot Link to comment
Nemifest Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 UA dispell is NOT affected my mastery. Link to comment
Noneedholy Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 prist got 160к+ from dispel ua - its Done similar to our, and you url fo patch 4.0.6 there was a different mechanic dot What do you want ? it still shouldn't affect with mastery. Don't talk about 3s since all the buffs who increase spellpower etc. increase the UA dmg. We are talking about locks in 2s who crit 150-160k Also the lock in the vid had EVERY proc up and here you can easily do 140k without any proccs. Link to comment
Saylance Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Noneedholy, 5/3/2011 4.1 compared to 4.0.6 http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001108103/President_Reagan_Thumbs_up_answer_1_xlarge.gif Link to comment
Noneedholy Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Noneedholy, 5/3/2011 4.1 compared to 4.0.6 Ok bud, you find a post that is from 2014 ? or a changelog ? No you won't so you have no proofs. At least i posted a bluepost here the last official post / changelog is from 2011 and mastery DOES NOT INCREASE the UA dispel damage ! Link to comment
Saylance Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) Noneedholy, UA dispell == full dot damage * 2 Also affected by mastery, and Grimoire of Sacrifice. Furmetal, 1. Mastery didnt calculate for tooltip damage. 2. (((((310+(14435*29%))+41.68%)*8)+27.41%)-80%)*2=25971.84 as we have. Edited November 1, 2015 by Saylance Link to comment
Noneedholy Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) It doesnt affect by mastery. 5.4.0 changelog to unstable affliction If the Unstable Affliction is dispelled it will cause [310 (+29% of spellpower) * 8] Dmage to the dispeller and silence them for 4 sec. This damage always critically strikes.[/Quote] where do you see full dot damage*2 ? source: http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=30108/unstable-affliction#changelog Edited November 1, 2015 by Noneedholy Link to comment
Nemifest Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) UA's dispell can only be increased by going intellect gemmed / Spellpower. Mastery does NOT increase the dispell damage. Edited November 1, 2015 by Nemifest Was from Dreanor. Link to comment
safety Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) UA's dispell can only be increased by going intellect gemmed / Spellpower. Mastery does NOT increase the dispell damage. http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/13122975693 UA's dispell should be originally around 30k, and around 50-70k with buffs. post from drenor, wher max hp ~400к and spellpower will nerfed ~/2-3 Edited November 1, 2015 by safety Link to comment
Noneedholy Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 So i proofed my point now. Saylance your formula for the UA dispel dmg was wrong how i showed you. And safety it shouldn't get increased by mastery. I posted a bluepost form 2011 okay if you have smth that is new than let's go Link to comment
Saylance Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Saylance your formula for the UA dispel dmg was wrong how i showed you. *2 its mean, that its always crit. safety shows you video = 165k crit from disspel in patch 5.4.8 in burst dots With out procks in patch 5.4.8 i remember 70-90k damage from disspel UA Now took any 550 warlock and dispell his UA To make any proff Link to comment
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