Furmetal Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) Hello plebs. Missed me? No? Okay. Don't expect a beautiful thread, I ran the tests because Weegee asked me. Thank him. Realm - Fun/x100/crossrealm Spell - Necrotic Strike(removed in Warlords of Draenor, thank god). Description - Healing absorb should not be affected by PvP Power, since it doesn't count as damage nor healing. How it should work - Healing absorb is affected by PvP Power. See formula below. Absorb = 225% of AP (AP * 2,25) Resilience = 80.00% (80% damage reduction) PvP Power = 31.74% (2,25 * AP * 1,3174 on a PvP target) Attack Power = 33908 Warrior's resilience = 80.00% 33908 * 2,25 = 76293 on a NPC, but currently it is 100510 76293 * 1,3174 = 100508, so it is being affected by PvP Power even on PvE, lol. 76293 * 0,80 = 61034 76293 - 61034(equals to 100% - 80%, which is the resilience mitigation) = 15259 100510 * 0,80 = 80408 100510 - 80408(equals to 100% - 80%, which is the resilience mitigation) = 20102, currently it is 19987, which is close enough. Some results may not be the same due to a few numbers because results were rounded down. Priority - 9/10, makes the server stupid(arena ladder) and real death knights players - which Pujo is not included in - look stupid. Comments - Yes, I have nothing better to do. ALSO IT IS BEING AFFECTED BY PVP POWER EVEN ON NON-PVP NPCS LOL. Proof - http://i.imgur.com/HBbw28o.jpg http://i.imgur.com/X2zoq8F.jpg http://i.imgur.com/g9V16l3.jpg http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7004453720 Some videos below. There are several other threads, do you research lazy goose. Really important note to NEFF Do not close this thread without proper proof, even better, wait for an admin to reply properly, you've made it clear enough that you play death knights and that you're not willing to fix or help fix major bugs. No offense. This is, of course, if they still give a blyat to the server. I also politely ask to death knight abusers to not even come to my thread. Go roll mistweaver/death knight while you still can, then sit at your rate. Edited December 3, 2015 by Furmetal
Weegee Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) The Necrotic strike formula is broken now .... Since Uhdks do 140k+ necro's in 2 hits after the change-logs were applied ... This should be the proper formula... Plez fix... :c Edited December 3, 2015 by Weegee
Furmetal Posted December 3, 2015 Author Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) @NOTE - This was a related to the thread post, but according to some private requests this is now edited, please ignore. Here, have a nude potato. Edited December 3, 2015 by Furmetal
Developers Neff Posted December 3, 2015 Developers Posted December 3, 2015 Healing absorb should not be affected by PvP Power' date=' since it doesn't count as damage nor healing.[/quote'] So, healing absorb should not affected by resilience too? If its doesnt count as damage. Then we got 100k+ necro per hit. Do not close this thread without proper proof Movie from retail 5.4.7 is not proper proof? (21:50 - 22:02) 40-80k Necro stacks in 1 hit and 160k - 120k in 2 hits which is totaly broken In movie above, dk stacks 87.6k necro in 1 hit with full procs (175k in 2 hits).
Furmetal Posted December 3, 2015 Author Posted December 3, 2015 So, healing absorb should not affected by resilience too? If its doesnt count as damage. Then we got 100k+ necro per hit. Movie from retail 5.4.7 is not proper proof? (21:50 - 22:02) In movie above, dk stacks 87.6k necro in 1 hit with full procs (175k in 2 hits). What makes your video more valid than the thread that I mentioned and a LOT of others? Also, it IS affected by PvP Resilience, but NOT PvP Power, you can see the hotfix on the link that I posted.
Developers Neff Posted December 3, 2015 Developers Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) What makes your video more valid than the thread that I mentioned and a LOT of others? Because my video from 5.4.7, while your thread with posts from 5.0.5 - 5.1 versions (look at date of posts there). - - - Добавлено - - - Another good video, but from 5.1 or close to that (different on date of upload video and posts in thread that you mentioned is 3 month). He stacks 61k necro per hit. But they are equiped in malevolent gear i guess. Edited December 3, 2015 by Neff
Furmetal Posted December 3, 2015 Author Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) Because my video from 5.4.7, while your thread with posts from 5.0.5 - 5.1 versions (look at date of posts there). - - - Добавлено - - - Another good video, but from 5.1 or close to that (different on date of upload video and posts in thread that you mentioned is 3 month). He stacks 61k necro per hit. But they are equiped in malevolent gear i guess. Went from english to german to spanish to finnish(?) to whatever is the language in the video. He did a 78k with trinket up, on 5.4.8. with full prideful gear. Also, necrotic strike's absorb is being affected by pvp power EVEN ON NPCS, LOL! Give me a valid thread proving that it should be affected. @Update Check this He had a ~~122.8k during his burst on the dummy. 122.8*0,2(which is the damage AFTER the mitigation from resilience) = ~24560 And as you can see from the date of the video, it is prideful season(5.4.7~~6.0.2.), the video is from 5.4.7. - http://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_5.4.8 This one you can see that he does a 192.5k, lets round it to 192500 like we did with the one above. 192500 * 0,2(damage after resilience mitigation) = ~38500 Considering he is on full burst, this number is acceptable. Edited December 3, 2015 by Furmetal
Developers Neff Posted December 3, 2015 Developers Posted December 3, 2015 He did a 78k with trinket up' date=' on 5.4.8. with full prideful gear.[/quote'] It was a damage. Look at normal combat text and from addon, they are both shows 78k and it was a crit. Healing absorb part can't crit. Also' date=' necrotic strike's absorb is being affected by pvp power EVEN ON NPCS, LOL![/quote'] Bug.
Furmetal Posted December 3, 2015 Author Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) You can see him doing a 56.4k necrotic strike while buffed and with procs. *Edit he had mark of the wild too He does a 43.3k with party buffs, he probably only had Horn of Winter. *Edit he had mark of the wild too He does a 10.3k necrotic strike(probably because it was healed) then it stacks to 53.3k while he had blood fury and the purple proc. Stop posting videos and show me threads. Edited December 3, 2015 by Furmetal
Developers Neff Posted December 3, 2015 Developers Posted December 3, 2015 You can see him doing a 56.4k necrotic strike while buffed and with procs. 75k actually. 3:56 total absorb 44.2k http://prntscr.com/99quyd 3:57 total absorb 119.4k http://prntscr.com/99qv5o Stop posting videos and show me threads. Videos are better proof, than threads from forum. Because people on the forum can writes what they want, while videos showing how exactly spell works in game.
Furmetal Posted December 3, 2015 Author Posted December 3, 2015 Videos are better proof, than threads from forum. Because people on the forum can writes what they want, while videos showing how exactly spell works in game. Actually no. Videos, most of the times, won't show you the stats being used.
Developers Neff Posted December 3, 2015 Developers Posted December 3, 2015 Videos' date=' most of the times, won't show you the stats being used.[/quote'] We are talking about pvp power, which gives about +60% to necrotic absorb for humans. Its a huge different and in this case, i think we dont need exact stats. 75k actually. 3:56 total absorb 44.2k http://prntscr.com/99quyd 3:57 total absorb 119.4k http://prntscr.com/99qv5o So, how much the attack power we need for 75k absorb like in this video? If necro is not affected by pvp power: (75000*100) / 20 = 375000 its a absorb without resilience. We are know, that the spell coefficient from attack power is 225%, so: 375000 / 2.25 = 166666 attack power. If necro is affected by pvp power (we are take the average number for human, ~60%): (75000*100) / 20 = 375000 / 1.6 (pvp power) = 234375 / 2.25 = 104166 attack power Can you reach an 166k attack power in PvP? Its impossible. While 104k attack power and 60% pvp power is a legit.
dotadoom Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 http://www.blogcdn.com/wow.joystiq.com/media/2011/03/azdwi.jpg pussy-ass healers
Developers Neff Posted December 3, 2015 Developers Posted December 3, 2015 http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/8728753168 Officially now Necrotic Strike does 2x your attack power in absorb easily test in PvE gear 44k atk pwr = 88k absorb (220k absorbs with everything procced) however it is now affected 100% by BASE RESIL (40%) and still gets the full benefit from PvP Power.
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