tiggar47 Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 Spell: Cheat Death Issue: Whilst it previously let damage through or didn't proc sometimes, right now it refuses to proc entirely, it will not activate under any circumstances or any amount of damage brought to it's threshold. How it should work: It should proc, bring you to 10% and reduce damage by 85% for the next three seconds. Realm: 100x Date it was tested:12.12.2015 16:55 Priority: 10/10, There have been so many arena games now where I would've lived if it would work, it completely disables a certain style of play. Proof:
tiggar47 Posted December 22, 2015 Author Posted December 22, 2015 UPDATE! I dueld few times. And it procks.But not as intended and does not reduce damage and it doens't prock on 20% it procks only on 2-3%
Noneedholy Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 why would they put effort on spells which are only used from bad rogues in PvP ? 1/10 idk why everyone rates useless bugs with 10/10 rly lel
fgt123 Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 why would they put effort on spells which are only used from bad rogues in PvP ? 1/10 idk why everyone rates useless bugs with 10/10 rly lel LOL what do you mean bad rogues lol cheat death has saved my ass more than feint ever will feint is good for 3s but since most rogues dont do 3s they do only 2s and since 2s is just a burst fest cheat death is more reiable than feint since you can get cced till the end of feint and just chain stunned while you dont have it so it doesnt really get you anywhere but for example caster cleaves like boomy affli lock where the dmg isnt that bursty but sustain feint is the better option so before you say anything learn the facts because of idiots like you most of the meta for rogues is feint whilst in reality its not as good if the person knows how to counter it
Repitchx Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 LOL what do you mean bad rogues lol cheat death has saved my ass more than feint ever will feint is good for 3s but since most rogues dont do 3s they do only 2s and since 2s is just a burst fest cheat death is more reiable than feint since you can get cced till the end of feint and just chain stunned while you dont have it so it doesnt really get you anywhere but for example caster cleaves like boomy affli lock where the dmg isnt that bursty but sustain feint is the better option so before you say anything learn the facts because of idiots like you most of the meta for rogues is feint whilst in reality its not as good if the person knows how to counter it kappaross
Adlairo Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 LOL what do you mean bad rogues lol cheat death has saved my ass more than feint ever will feint is good for 3s but since most rogues dont do 3s they do only 2s and since 2s is just a burst fest cheat death is more reiable than feint since you can get cced till the end of feint and just chain stunned while you dont have it so it doesnt really get you anywhere but for example caster cleaves like boomy affli lock where the dmg isnt that bursty but sustain feint is the better option so before you say anything learn the facts because of idiots like you most of the meta for rogues is feint whilst in reality its not as good if the person knows how to counter it Feint > cheat death unless you're too mongo to pre-feint a deep freeze or stun, although Feint should be up at all times if u use it. 1
Noneedholy Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 LOL what do you mean bad rogues lol cheat death has saved my ass more than feint ever will feint is good for 3s but since most rogues dont do 3s they do only 2s and since 2s is just a burst fest cheat death is more reiable than feint since you can get cced till the end of feint and just chain stunned while you dont have it so it doesnt really get you anywhere but for example caster cleaves like boomy affli lock where the dmg isnt that bursty but sustain feint is the better option so before you say anything learn the facts because of idiots like you most of the meta for rogues is feint whilst in reality its not as good if the person knows how to counter it /facepalm Feint > cheat death unless you're too mongo to pre-feint a deep freeze or stun' date=' although Feint should be up at all times if u use it.[/quote'] thanks lol
tiggar47 Posted December 23, 2015 Author Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) When using Cheat Death attacks of mass damage like Shadowburn can't put you below 10% + gives 85% reduce damage for 3 seconds. But feint doesn't do that.What feint with elus talent does is when active reduces damage by 30%. Which means on some comps Cheat Death is viable. Edited December 23, 2015 by tiggar47
Repitchx Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 cheat death is for people that can't handle having binds + sucks at the game
dotadoom Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 feint is basically an extra 43% hp (1/0.7) if you keep it up when you have to CD is more like a "nope, I will die after 2sec instead". Kinda worthless for decent rogues. I mean if CD activates and you don't have a healer it means you're pretty much f-ed up
tiggar47 Posted December 23, 2015 Author Posted December 23, 2015 I have enough keybinds to cover whole spellbook. The point is.Warlock cc chain on 20% 7 sec ,feint goes off, he shadowburns you.And you are dead. In cheat death case.It doesn't happen. I can agree with you that cheat death is for "bad" rogues, but it has its "I" And lets say this:Most rogues with Elusiveness talent don't keep feint up, specially when there are 2 dps comps. They only concetrate on burst.And on spamming hemmo. Even 2.2k cr rogues do that.
dotadoom Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 I have enough keybinds to cover whole spellbook. The point is.Warlock cc chain on 20% 7 sec ,feint goes off, he shadowburns you.And you are dead. In cheat death case.It doesn't happen. I can agree with you that cheat death is for "bad" rogues, but it has its "I" And lets say this:Most rogues with Elusiveness talent don't keep feint up, specially when there are 2 dps comps. They only concetrate on burst.And on spamming hemmo. Even 2.2k cr rogues do that. In this case CD is good, yes, but it usually only delays the inevitable. "The best defense is a good offense" But in the end, you don't need to defend against a marked for dead target :wink: (rogues in MOP eat anything that has no trinket)
Frostshotz Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 I have enough keybinds to cover whole spellbook. The point is.Warlock cc chain on 20% 7 sec ,feint goes off, he shadowburns you.And you are dead. In cheat death case.It doesn't happen. I can agree with you that cheat death is for "bad" rogues, but it has its "I" And lets say this:Most rogues with Elusiveness talent don't keep feint up, specially when there are 2 dps comps. They only concetrate on burst.And on spamming hemmo. Even 2.2k cr rogues do that. You can feint the shadowburn for 30% less dmg.It wont always kill you. 2.2k rogues are just bad.Look at 3k or so rated ones.
tiggar47 Posted December 23, 2015 Author Posted December 23, 2015 You didn't understand what I said.How will you feint while 7 sec fear is on you.Even if you feinted before it lasts 5 sec fear lasts 7-8 In this case CD is good, yes, but it usually only delays the inevitable. "The best defense is a good offense" (rogues in MOP eat anything that has no trinket) I agree. Rogues can also eat anything that has a trinket :D Specially dumb classes like warriors.
Repitchx Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 You didn't understand what I said.How will you feint while 7 sec fear is on you.Even if you feinted before it lasts 5 sec fear lasts 7-8 I agree. Rogues can also eat anything that has a trinket :D Specially dumb classes like warriors. cause you'll just die right after cheat death procs, it sucks. cheat death is useless. the difference between a good rogue and a bad one is that a good rogue will prefeint while a bad one doesnt even use it. you're saying that if you get feared and feint falls off then you'll die. yes, that's true, but hello?????????? communication with your partner? hellooooooooooooooooo from the other side???????
Frostshotz Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 cause you'll just die right after cheat death procs, it sucks. cheat death is useless. the difference between a good rogue and a bad one is that a good rogue will prefeint while a bad one doesnt even use it. you're saying that if you get feared and feint falls off then you'll die. yes, that's true, but hello?????????? communication with your partner? hellooooooooooooooooo from the other side??????? Not to mention fear breaks on literally the first hit.Quite bad in my experience vs the main target.
podara33 Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 You didn't understand what I said.How will you feint while 7 sec fear is on you.Even if you feinted before it lasts 5 sec fear lasts 7-8 I agree. Rogues can also eat anything that has a trinket :D Specially dumb classes like warriors. ok big boy lets end this right here since you like testing stuff just do the math : keep using feint from the start of the super serious all star duel till the end correctly and calculate how much dmg you negate . then use cheat death and do the math again profit the point is to live longer and not die this goes for arena too . any scenario . learn to feint . moral of the story : STOP REPORTING UNSIGNIFICANT BUGS . thanks.
Frostshotz Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 moral of the story : STOP REPORTING UNSIGNIFICANT BUGS . thanks. all bugs should be tolerated eh rules i guess.
tiggar47 Posted December 23, 2015 Author Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) I am using Elu talent and feint.I don't use cheat death but it has to be fixed. you're saying that if you get feared and feint falls off then you'll die. yes, that's true, but hello?????????? communication with your partner? hellooooooooooooooooo from the other side??????? I do communicate but only some teams survive burst in smoke bomb.Not to mention double rouge. Specially on Healer comps Edited December 23, 2015 by tiggar47
podara33 Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 all bugs should be tolerated eh rules i guess. reporting cheat death wastes everyone's time . it would be wiser if this guy bumped all the real 10/10 bugs .
Nemifest Posted December 24, 2015 Posted December 24, 2015 Basically, Cheat Death is for people which doesn't know how to survive and doesn't know how to counter their enemy class. 30% is more viable, because it provide you 30% nearly like a barkskin, which is pretty powerful against an opener.
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