Cheat Death with Proof

[tiggar47]

Spell: Cheat Death

 

Issue: Whilst it previously let damage through or didn't proc sometimes, right now it refuses to proc entirely, it will not activate under any circumstances or any amount of damage brought to it's threshold.

 

How it should work: It should proc, bring you to 10% and reduce damage by 85% for the next three seconds.

 

Realm: 100x

 

Date it was tested:12.12.2015 16:55

 

Priority: 10/10, There have been so many arena games now where I would've lived if it would work, it completely disables a certain style of play.

 

Proof:

[Adlairo]

.

.

.

.

.

[tiggar47]

Fix this!

[tiggar47]

UPDATE!

 

I dueld few times.

 

And it procks.But not as intended and does not reduce damage and it doens't prock on 20% it procks only on 2-3%

[Noneedholy]

why would they put effort on spells which are only used from bad rogues in PvP ?

1/10

idk why everyone rates useless bugs with 10/10 rly lel

[fgt123]

why would they put effort on spells which are only used from bad rogues in PvP ?

1/10

idk why everyone rates useless bugs with 10/10 rly lel

 

LOL what do you mean bad rogues lol cheat death has saved my ass more than feint ever will feint is good for 3s but since most rogues dont do 3s they do only 2s and since 2s is just a burst fest cheat death is more reiable than feint since you can get cced till the end of feint and just chain stunned while you dont have it so it doesnt really get you anywhere but for example caster cleaves like boomy affli lock where the dmg isnt that bursty but sustain feint is the better option so before you say anything learn the facts because of idiots like you most of the meta for rogues is feint whilst in reality its not as good if the person knows how to counter it

[Repitchx]

LOL what do you mean bad rogues lol cheat death has saved my ass more than feint ever will feint is good for 3s but since most rogues dont do 3s they do only 2s and since 2s is just a burst fest cheat death is more reiable than feint since you can get cced till the end of feint and just chain stunned while you dont have it so it doesnt really get you anywhere but for example caster cleaves like boomy affli lock where the dmg isnt that bursty but sustain feint is the better option so before you say anything learn the facts because of idiots like you most of the meta for rogues is feint whilst in reality its not as good if the person knows how to counter it

 

kappaross

[Adlairo]

LOL what do you mean bad rogues lol cheat death has saved my ass more than feint ever will feint is good for 3s but since most rogues dont do 3s they do only 2s and since 2s is just a burst fest cheat death is more reiable than feint since you can get cced till the end of feint and just chain stunned while you dont have it so it doesnt really get you anywhere but for example caster cleaves like boomy affli lock where the dmg isnt that bursty but sustain feint is the better option so before you say anything learn the facts because of idiots like you most of the meta for rogues is feint whilst in reality its not as good if the person knows how to counter it

Feint > cheat death unless you're too mongo to pre-feint a deep freeze or stun, although Feint should be up at all times if u use it.

[Noneedholy]

LOL what do you mean bad rogues lol cheat death has saved my ass more than feint ever will feint is good for 3s but since most rogues dont do 3s they do only 2s and since 2s is just a burst fest cheat death is more reiable than feint since you can get cced till the end of feint and just chain stunned while you dont have it so it doesnt really get you anywhere but for example caster cleaves like boomy affli lock where the dmg isnt that bursty but sustain feint is the better option so before you say anything learn the facts because of idiots like you most of the meta for rogues is feint whilst in reality its not as good if the person knows how to counter it

 

/facepalm

 

Feint > cheat death unless you're too mongo to pre-feint a deep freeze or stun' date=' although Feint should be up at all times if u use it.[/quote']

thanks lol

[tiggar47]

When using Cheat Death attacks of mass damage like Shadowburn can't put you below 10% + gives 85% reduce damage for 3 seconds.

But feint doesn't do that.What feint with elus talent does is when active reduces damage by 30%.

 

Which means on some comps Cheat Death is viable.

Edited December 23, 2015 by tiggar47

[Repitchx]

cheat death is for people that can't handle having binds + sucks at the game

[dotadoom]

feint is basically an extra 43% hp (1/0.7) if you keep it up when you have to

CD is more like a "nope, I will die after 2sec instead". Kinda worthless for decent rogues. I mean if CD activates and you don't have a healer it means you're pretty much f-ed up

[tiggar47]

I have enough keybinds to cover whole spellbook.

The point is.Warlock cc chain on 20% 7 sec ,feint goes off, he shadowburns you.And you are dead.

In cheat death case.It doesn't happen.

I can agree with you that cheat death is for "bad" rogues, but it has its "I"

And lets say this:Most rogues with Elusiveness talent don't keep feint up, specially when there are 2 dps comps.

They only concetrate on burst.And on spamming hemmo.

Even 2.2k cr rogues do that.

[dotadoom]

I have enough keybinds to cover whole spellbook.

The point is.Warlock cc chain on 20% 7 sec ,feint goes off, he shadowburns you.And you are dead.

In cheat death case.It doesn't happen.

I can agree with you that cheat death is for "bad" rogues, but it has its "I"

And lets say this:Most rogues with Elusiveness talent don't keep feint up, specially when there are 2 dps comps.

They only concetrate on burst.And on spamming hemmo.

Even 2.2k cr rogues do that.

 

In this case CD is good, yes, but it usually only delays the inevitable.

 

"The best defense is a good offense"

But in the end, you don't need to defend against a marked for dead target :wink:

(rogues in MOP eat anything that has no trinket)

[Frostshotz]

I have enough keybinds to cover whole spellbook.

The point is.Warlock cc chain on 20% 7 sec ,feint goes off, he shadowburns you.And you are dead.

In cheat death case.It doesn't happen.

I can agree with you that cheat death is for "bad" rogues, but it has its "I"

And lets say this:Most rogues with Elusiveness talent don't keep feint up, specially when there are 2 dps comps.

They only concetrate on burst.And on spamming hemmo.

Even 2.2k cr rogues do that.

 

You can feint the shadowburn for 30% less dmg.It wont always kill you.

2.2k rogues are just bad.Look at 3k or so rated ones.

[tiggar47]

You didn't understand what I said.How will you feint while 7 sec fear is on you.Even if you feinted before it lasts 5 sec fear lasts 7-8

 

 

In this case CD is good, yes, but it usually only delays the inevitable.

 

"The best defense is a good offense"

(rogues in MOP eat anything that has no trinket)

 

I agree.

Rogues can also eat anything that has a trinket :D

Specially dumb classes like warriors.

[Repitchx]

You didn't understand what I said.How will you feint while 7 sec fear is on you.Even if you feinted before it lasts 5 sec fear lasts 7-8

 

 

 

 

I agree.

Rogues can also eat anything that has a trinket :D

Specially dumb classes like warriors.

 

cause you'll just die right after cheat death procs, it sucks.

 

cheat death is useless. the difference between a good rogue and a bad one is that a good rogue will prefeint while a bad one doesnt even use it.

 

you're saying that if you get feared and feint falls off then you'll die. yes, that's true, but hello?????????? communication with your partner? hellooooooooooooooooo from the other side???????

[Frostshotz]

cause you'll just die right after cheat death procs, it sucks.

 

cheat death is useless. the difference between a good rogue and a bad one is that a good rogue will prefeint while a bad one doesnt even use it.

 

you're saying that if you get feared and feint falls off then you'll die. yes, that's true, but hello?????????? communication with your partner? hellooooooooooooooooo from the other side???????

 

Not to mention fear breaks on literally the first hit.Quite bad in my experience vs the main target.

[podara33]

You didn't understand what I said.How will you feint while 7 sec fear is on you.Even if you feinted before it lasts 5 sec fear lasts 7-8

 

 

 

 

 

I agree.

Rogues can also eat anything that has a trinket :D

Specially dumb classes like warriors.

 

ok big boy lets end this right here since you like testing stuff

 

just do the math :

keep using feint from the start of the super serious all star duel till the end correctly and calculate how much dmg you negate .

then use cheat death and do the math again

profit

the point is to live longer and not die

 

this goes for arena too . any scenario . learn to feint .

 

moral of the story : STOP REPORTING UNSIGNIFICANT BUGS . thanks.

[Frostshotz]

moral of the story : STOP REPORTING UNSIGNIFICANT BUGS . thanks.

all bugs should be tolerated

eh rules i guess.

[tiggar47]

I am using Elu talent and feint.I don't use cheat death but it has to be fixed.

 

you're saying that if you get feared and feint falls off then you'll die. yes, that's true, but hello?????????? communication with your partner? hellooooooooooooooooo from the other side???????

 

I do communicate but only some teams survive burst in smoke bomb.Not to mention double rouge.

Specially on Healer comps

Edited December 23, 2015 by tiggar47

[podara33]

all bugs should be tolerated

eh rules i guess.

 

reporting cheat death wastes everyone's time . it would be wiser if this guy bumped all the real 10/10 bugs .

[Nemifest]

Basically, Cheat Death is for people which doesn't know how to survive and doesn't know how to counter their enemy class.

 

30% is more viable, because it provide you 30% nearly like a barkskin, which is pretty powerful against an opener.

[LICHER]

Not topical.