WLS, Locks/Wars, and Resto Druids.

[jordan83222]

Dear Devs,

 

Just a quick question, have you guys planned on nerfing the dmg from wars and locks? I'm sure you've noticed, and every other person on this server has noticed, that these two classes do much more damage than they're supposed to. If you look at MLS on live compared to MLS on panda, there's a massive difference. That difference is the MLS on panda triples the dmg from MLS on live. And, by live, I am talking about 5.4.8 Mists of Pandaria Retail. I play resto druid, and what I've noticed is the fact that lock dots beat Heart of the Wild full hots from resto druid, even when the lock has no procs or cds. Like, seriously? The only reason WLS is even viable is because of how broken lock damage is. And, I don't even need to introduce Warrior damage. I know warriors do a lot of damage on live, but seriously, 250k executes with 170k slam spam? You've got to notice that is retardedly overpowered.

 

Secondly, we need to discuss Resto Druids. The most recent fixes to resto druid have been literally useless. Resto druids are practically irrelevant right now because of how broken locks and wars are. It's been over a year, and you haven't even bothered to look at Shroom, one of the most essential resto druid abilities in this game. Despite the fact that people have been raging over it this entire time. Notice how the highest rated team on panda is WMS, not WMD, WMS wasn't nearly as good as WMD on live. Proof? Push Push 2014 Blizzcon finals, they weren't WMS, they were WMD.

 

Finally, let's talk about warriors. First of all, you can't trinket warrior fear, which is probably the dumbest thing I've ever seen in this game. I don't know why you're fixing the stupidest things in the game when you have ten times more important things to worry about. There are so many more important bugs that would probably take less time to fix than most of the things you're fixing right now. I'm not telling you that you should do this a specific way because I know this is your server, however pvpers have quit this server for these reasons I have stated here. And, unless you fix these things, they will only get worse. You would probably be the most popular mop server of all time if you fixed all of these bugs. I hope that you read most of this so that you can get a general idea of what I am talking about. Thank you.

 

Setfenv

[Adlairo]

Coding played a Resto Shaman at rank 1 at the time of Blizzcon 2014, and he picked Resto Druid for a reason. He even played Resto Shaman at Blizzcon 2015, that's your proof that he could've gone Resto Shaman if it was better.

[Plzfixorito]

GG +1 up voted bruh.. like this is pandawow's biggest problem its retarded.

[Noneedholy]

170k slam spam?

teach me senpai .... never do above 120k

(even with reck)

 

Resto druids are practically irrelevant right now

learn to play rdruid .. playing my druid on 2850 now with friends ive no problems at all .. i would even say druid is abit op here. 200k swiftmend hello ? Lol

idk why so much QQ about druids honestly they are fine

Edited January 1, 2016 by Noneedholy

[Plzfixorito]

Cmon dude... was just an freaking example... plus u should be able to reach 130k with all the procs.

 

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learn to play rdruid .. playing my druid on 2850 now with friends ive no problems at all .. i would even say druid is abit op here. 200k swiftmend hello ? Lol

idk why so much QQ about druids honestly they are fine

Right cuz some crucial abilities like Genesis and Shroom bloom arent fucked??? thats a big part for dampening comps.

[jordan83222]

teach me senpai .... never do above 120k

(even with reck)

 

 

learn to play rdruid .. playing my druid on 2850 now with friends ive no problems at all .. i would even say druid is abit op here. 200k swiftmend hello ? Lol

idk why so much QQ about druids honestly they are fine

Wait, is a warrior that plays WLS actually trying to defend himself right now?

 

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Noneed, you play the easiest comps to play for resto druids and warriors. Please do not act like you know how to play this game. You're a pandawow hero, you even went live and you failed.

 

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And keep in mind, warriors don't need cooldowns to solo people.

[Noneedholy]

shut up now. I watched your stream u even trinket a 2 seconds deep freeze. You are totally shit and know nothing about anything. 2k Trash player keep QQing about classes and blame ppl who actually understand that game ? Holy fuck man grow up and hit 2.2 than you can keep talking here. FFs you are completly bullshit. You are the same kind of shit player that post in the official Arena forums. People without even 2.2 XP only QQing about things because they cant play their classes. Go home dude ur playing druid and u failed hard in 3s on 1.4 mmr. Holy fuck man you are horrible plce

learn to play resto druid scrub

Edited January 1, 2016 by Noneedholy

[jordan83222]

Lols?

 

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Keep talking shit, it only makes you seem like a douchebag. Every single person on this server agrees with me except for you. Hmm, I wonder why? It might be because you play WLS, or that you play a warrior? Or, that on your resto druid, you play rdru/war, hmm.... Lots of wars in there....

 

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Stop acting like you're this god among men when you play a private server.

[Noneedholy]

I played resto druid Firemage, resto druid frostmage, rdruid war honestly, these 3 combs are the only viable combs for a druid in s15. Deal with it that people play it and im still higher than you. Druid is my fucking main class and i can even admit that its fine. Just learn to heal and stop QQing ... lol Hilarious. I can even outheal a MW in 2s in dampening Roflmao. Warrior and locks are OP here OFC but stop fucking QQing about druids because they are fine.

 

As i said failing at 1400 mmr.

 

You have nothing to talk about.

 

Good night guys im drunk as fuck. cba discussing with people who stuck on 1.5 xxD

 

- happy new year

[jordan83222]

Btw, *cough* elitist *cough*

 

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*cough* panda hero *cough*, *cough* private server tryhard *cough*, *cough* takes this game way too seriously *cough*

 

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I can tell that noneed either gets bullied at school or is struggling with narcissism. He's the type of person that thinks he's the best at everything. I genuinely feel bad for you. Simply because you act like PandaWoW rating means something. I figured you were a pretty nice person, yet you're just some elitist who thinks he's the best at every class, yet you got farmed by a russian WMS. Trust me, I know you're good at this game. However, you don't play comps that take any skill what so ever, especially on Panda. So, get high rating on live before you talk shit to me or anybody else.

 

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I figured you were pretty nice until now, I'm surprised you have any friends at all.

 

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And for the record, if you think resto druids are "fine", yet every single 3s comp on pandawow that's somewhat high rating is playing with a resto shaman, then you're not the brightest sun in the milkyway. RDru's are fine in 2s, but they're dogshit in 3s. Any lock team counters their heals ten fold.

 

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Or warriors.

 

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And by the way, quit drinking or have fun with liver cancer.

[Plzfixorito]

*Grabs popcorn* this "conversation" is getting prety exiting xD

[Bapss]

Oke..

 

First off, why title "WLS"? I don't know where to start when addressing people talking about "Omg WLS OP" lol, because it's really not. If you look at the top 38 warlocks in 3vs3 (Waaz maybe slight exception), they all only played with me. So there's what, two WLS in top 40? Why make a post crying about it lol.

 

The classes are balanced as fuck atm. Watch another WLS q vs that WMS and they lose. So again, why title WLS?

 

Maybe what you're failing to realise is that we are playing the comp to it's potential. When we queue, spectate us and try give us tips on how to improve.. I doubt you'll find much room for advice. And that's cause WLS really don't have much cc, it's just all about damage and hitting the right target.

 

Compare that to people queueing Godcomp/RMP/RMD/MLS/KFC/Jungle where you have so much CC, but non of it barely gets used, and when they use it, they never line it with burst, or know how to afterwards, play defensive.

 

I queued for example vs RMP yesterday (Shelby, Repitch, and Howtomagerog), and it's obvious that a good RMP/RMD on here would be R1. The same goes for any other tier 1 comps if played good like we play WLS. Because as much as you might think WLS is OP, we do play decent, since when we fail I can usually spot where we go wrong, try and improve (although Funkabizsax dont know how to play with dark bargain lolololol).

 

TL;DR - I guess what I'm tryna say is that lock/warr are not OP on here at all, it's just a matter of playing your comp to its maximum capability.. And since Lock+Warr together don't have any cc that breaks on damage, it requires less comms. But if a tier 1 comp with good players queued who knew how to play, they would show how much more OP their comps are. :)

 

P.S. - Repitch you gotta l2blind full not DR'd, (and if needed sap off), then as RMP you will rek all so much easier lol. Was good RMP :)

Edited January 1, 2016 by Bapss

[Bapss]

Dear Devs,

 

Have you guys planned on nerfing the dmg from wars and locks? I'm sure you've noticed, and every other person on this server has noticed, that these two classes do much more damage than they're supposed to.

 

I must be the only one that hadn't noticed lol.. Which spells are doing more exactly?

 

If you look at MLS on live compared to MLS on panda, there's a massive difference. That difference is the MLS on panda triples the dmg from MLS on 5.4.8 Mists of Pandaria Retail.

U srs or trolling? :D Again, what spells? Because on after-game scoreboard, all damage is often the same on both teams.. So are you saying retail MLS usually did 1/3 of the other team?

 

The only reason WLS is even viable is because of how broken lock damage is.

Which spells/abilities tho?

 

And, I don't even need to introduce Warrior damage. I know warriors do a lot of damage on live, but seriously, 250k executes with 170k slam spam?

Again, U srs or trolling? :D Because if we're talking about arena, it sounds a lot like them mysterious 250k Ele Blast which nobody can give any proof of lol.

 

Secondly, we need to discuss Resto Druids. The most recent fixes to resto druid have been literally useless. Resto druids are practically irrelevant right now because of how broken locks and wars are. It's been over a year, and you haven't even bothered to look at Shroom, one of the most essential resto druid abilities in this game.

Moar QQ about Warrior's and Warlocks pls :D On a serious note though, Resto Druid sounds like Mistweaver. Life Caccoon is bugged, but somehow they are still playable. Apparently orbs are OP swiftmend? The point is all bugs need to be reported, to make it easier to fix them, otherwise they'll only fix the negative ones and the class will be OP as fuck.

 

Despite the fact that people have been raging over it this entire time. Notice how the highest rated team on panda is WMS, not WMD, WMS wasn't nearly as good as WMD on live.

Ofc WMD>WMS as a comp. But that tell me a WMD where the mage+warrior are as good as the mage+warrior from the WMS lol. This is the thing about 3s, it's skill driven, and it's not just no-brain 2s where you can afk until dampening lol.

 

It goes back to what I was saying earlier about CC. Rdruid is a heavily cc based class with clones, and since many don't know how to use clone (for example cloning locks on dark soul, mages on orb, or warrior in wall/rek, or a target when it's low and rallying cry is gonna where off) then ofc Rdruids do worse here than on Retail. It's just "skill" (cringe at the use of the word lol).

 

Finally, let's talk about warriors. First of all, you can't trinket warrior fear, which is probably the dumbest thing I've ever seen in this game.

Agreed, this should be no.1 10/10 priority fix.

 

I hope that you read most of this so that you can get a general idea of what I am talking about. Thank you.

 

Setfenv

 

Sure, but in future maybe try to specify and provide links to which bugs you're talking about? Otherwise comes accross like just QQing lol.

 

Good post overall. :)

 

Peace

Edited January 1, 2016 by Bapss

[Nemifest]

Thread has been closed for useless commenting, off-topic, "troll" and other reasons.

 

Sorry.

 

Happy new year.