PvE Abusres.

[Weegee]

As the title says, I would like to ask Admins & GM's a question.

 

Since There are 2 guilds which abuse this Bug Which is called Vampiric Bite from ICC And those guilds are Dark Hate & Comeback. http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=168401 This is the example.

 

And now there are people running around from Both guilds with pretty much BiS Pve gear since they used the bug to gain damage and one shot the bosses.

 

Not to mention that 90% people from Dark Hate have *FULL SHA OF PRIDE GEAR* Which is absurd since the boss loot got released about a Week ago.

 

Now i am wondering how will you solve this problem?

 

Will you delete their gear which they got unfairly?

 

Will you remove their achievements from ToT Hc / Sha of Pride which they got with ones hot bug?

 

Will they get Permanently banned ?

 

What kind of punishment will they get? If it will be a 30d day ban they will still have the gear after the ban expires *Or they will un-ban their selves*

 

Some people suggested that Both of the guilds should be banned because of the abuse, since you cant actually know who raided and who got the gear in their guilds *unless you want to check each and every member of it*

 

Now i believe that both guilds should serve a decent punishment and that their Sha of pride gear should be removed, Or just permanently ban them.

 

Or you have something else in your mind?

Edited February 14, 2016 by Weegee

[Nemifest]

My opinion is just that Pandawow administration should remove the gear & ban the players which has the gear.

 

Permanently banned sounds too extreme and "comeback" guild also have a staff member there, which brings lots of disrespect for a staff community. Abusing.. However, permanently ban shouldn't be it.

 

Just remove their gear and ban them for the highest punishment - I'd agree with the blizzard rules if they're applied to Pandawow.

 

To the staff member which abused it with the guild/s, should be punished for higher attunement.

Edited February 13, 2016 by Nemifest

[Cogman]

Do you want me too blow em up for you

[Weegee]

My opinion is just that Pandawow administration should remove the gear & ban the players which has the gear.

 

Permanently banned sounds too extreme and "comeback" guild also have a staff member there, which brings lots of disrespect for a staff community. Abusing.. However, permanently ban shouldn't be it.

 

Just remove their gear and ban them for the highest punishment - I'd agree with the blizzard rules if they're applied to Pandawow.

 

To the staff member which abused it with the guild/s, should be punished for higher attunement.

 

I agree, but the gear should be removed from Dark Hate & Comeback since they were the guild which abused to the max. (Not from all possible pve-rs)

 

And if we were to apply the Blizzard rules, Both of those guilds would be permanently banned, I don't know if you remember the guild during Wotlk when they used a bug to reset LK Platform which would make valkyr's unable to pick you up and throw you.

 

But yes, i agree that they should server a higher punishment & that their Sha of Pride gear, should be gone.

[Дюдя]

I think it would be unfair to ban all members of the guilds. Perhaps, they are not involved in the bug abuse.

With everything else I'm totally agree.

[Stayfjurt]

1 member from comback { which is part of staff > tester } was included only , he tried to understand how they are bugging it so he can report.

[ thats what ive heard > he allready contacted admin } but yes , dark hate killed sha 18 x in one week like whole guild have full pve gear now, they somehow found how to restart boss

 

comeback killing sha normally , i can record whole fight next time.

 

last raid we also bringed GM with us , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJnDRc_egLM&feature=youtu.be ,

 

That rogue , something on Z idk

Edited February 14, 2016 by Stayfjurt

[tiggar47]

I think it would be unfair to ban all members of the guilds. Perhaps, they are not involved in the bug abuse.

With everything else I'm totally agree.

 

Yes, I thought that aswell.They should't ban all of them and there is no actual Proof they are abusing it just facts.

If people would resolve problems like murdur with facts everyone even guilty people would end up in Prison or even dead because somone was trying to prove to point.

 

I think you should gather proof not facts even if they're obvius.

[olbaa]

Apparently abusers still aren't banned.

 

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[Дюдя]

First of all, the reports must be written. And then we get the verdict of administration.

[Stayfjurt]

atleast if they fix posibility of restarting sha of pride , it could help a lot. even if they bug only once per reset its ok

[Nemifest]

First of all, the reports must be written. And then we get the verdict of administration.

 

I will send the information about the reset, showing how its done etc, to the administration.

[tiggar47]

I will send the information about the reset, showing how its done etc, to the administration.

 

How do you know that Information, you abuse aswell?

 

O.T: Weegee, I think noone should get permanently banned, specially for this kind of Stupidity.I pretty don't much care about PvE but you can't ban whole guild and delete their items that would be a dumb action.

If all of them have those items that doesn't mean all of them abuse.

[Adlairotwo]

How do you know that Information, you abuse aswell?.

 

I sense the hostility

[Weegee]

To all who do not understand why a Perma ban is an valid Punishment.

 

1. If they get banned for 30 Days it wont mean anything since they simply can buy an Unban and they will STILL HAVE THE GEAR.

 

2. The guild raid abused thus They should be punished, same what happened with Wotlk raid during Lich king. (The whole guild got banned Due the abuse during the raid, but ofc this is not retail so it can be different)

 

If they don't want to Permanently ban them ( Considering that they will lose people ) They should delete the Gear Which they have, like they all have Full Sha of Pride gear.

 

Whenever you inspect someone from Dark Hate / Comeback They will have The chest , The swords, The trinket, The Shield, etc. (Mainly Dark Hate but Comeback has it too)

 

But in order for that, Administrators would have to Check member 1 by 1 Either through Control Panel Or In-game.

 

Banning the whole guild would be the punishment since the Guild abused it and like the rules say (On this server) That the whole raid should be banned.

 

But in this case There's Multiple groups which done the raid and got the gear therefore they should be banned.

 

And the ToT raid, it is irrelevant since i am talking about SoO. Therefore what you said it's completely Useless.

 

Therefore That's why they should get the Punishment as in Perma ban. They abused > They deserve it. Their fault that they done it.

Edited February 14, 2016 by Weegee

[tiggar47]

Maximum ban is 30 d in Worst case and yes, you ban raid group not whole guild.

[Weegee]

Maximum ban is 30 d in Worst case and yes, you ban raid group not whole guild.

 

Read what i said.

 

The guild raid abused thus They should be punished, same what happened with Wotlk raid during Lich king. (The whole guild got banned Due the abuse during the raid, but ofc this is not retail so it can be different)

 

If they don't want to Permanently ban them ( Considering that they will lose people ) They should delete the Gear Which they have, like they all have Full Sha of Pride gear.

 

But in order for that, Administrators would have to Check member 1 by 1 Either through Control Panel Or In-game.

 

Banning the whole guild would be the punishment since the Guild abused it and like the rules say (On this server) That the whole raid should be banned.

 

But in this case There's Multiple groups which done the raid and got the gear therefore they should be banned.

 

 

And i don't believe that they will search through everyone's armory through CP.

 

If you don't have anything smart to say + if you don't understand what this could mean and what chaos it can cause then don't bother commenting, same thing which you did with Nemi's post.

 

How do you know that Information, you abuse aswell?

If you want drama, go somewhere else, we don't need your useless comments here.

Edited February 15, 2016 by Weegee

[Cogman]

atleast if they fix posibility of restarting sha of pride ' date=' it could help a lot. even if they bug only once per reset its ok[/quote']

Listen hoe I thought I got rid of you.....

[Juster]

Already fixed, also gm's can ban these players.