faina Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 я всё время забываю сколько армора у манекена, ну насколько идет снижение урона, так мб все верно посчитал
Takaa. 3 Posted March 29, 2016 Posted March 29, 2016 THe fuck ? its the job of programers to do formulas not the comunity of this server lol
Vegari Posted March 29, 2016 Posted March 29, 2016 THe fuck ? its the job of programers to do formulas not the comunity of this server lol ye because staff is too lazy OR too dumb to do so. probably both
Nemifest Posted March 29, 2016 Posted March 29, 2016 ye because staff is too lazy OR too dumb to do so. probably both No, completely wrong. You have to provide proof, that the item/Ability is bugged, otherwise we won't know if you're trying to buff it ( Like Pujo2 is doing ) Or nerf it.
pujo2 Posted March 30, 2016 Author Posted March 30, 2016 No, completely wrong. You have to provide proof, that the item/Ability is bugged, otherwise we won't know if you're trying to buff it ( Like Pujo2 is doing ) Or nerf it. u can see he is dong 23k crits without berseker buff.. im doing 21k in game lol, not 10k diference but still 530ilvl doing more dmg than 550 here kek
Nemifest Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 u can see he is dong 23k crits without berseker buff.. im doing 21k in game lol, not 10k diference but still 530ilvl doing more dmg than 550 here kek Ok, so. You're saying that a proof is if I did 160k Elemental Blast ( No buffs, no trinkets, no elixir/flask, no pujo pujo things, no abuse like you, no weird things ) Ingame, here. And another shaman from YT at the patch of 5.4.8 Did 162k on retail, that's bugged? You're completely out of your mind. Have you ever heared of luck?
Señorpujo Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) Ok, so. You're saying that a proof is if I did 160k Elemental Blast ( No buffs, no trinkets, no elixir/flask, no pujo pujo things, no abuse like you, no weird things ) Ingame, here. And another shaman from YT at the patch of 5.4.8 Did 162k on retail, that's bugged? You're completely out of your mind. Have you ever heared of luck? 23-25k 530ilvl dk, 19-20k 550ilvl dk in pandawow, there is something called ilvl diference, if the dk on the video was 550 ilvl i wouldn't care for 2k sometimes, but the think is that he is doing 2k-4k more dots having like 100k less hp and less set, that's the point on the post Edited March 31, 2016 by Señorpujo
Nemifest Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 23-25k 530ilvl dk, 19-20k 550ilvl dk in pandawow, there is something called ilvl diference, if the dk on the video was 550 ilvl i wouldn't care for 2k sometimes, but the think is that he is doing 2k-4k more dots having like 100k less hp and less set, that's the point on the post No, the point is that you're totally blind. Get over it, or use a period T
pujo2 Posted March 31, 2016 Author Posted March 31, 2016 No, the point is that you're totally blind. Get over it, or use a period T blind why, u can see the video... no berseker 23k crit dots 530ilvl dk, in pandawow 550 dk less ..
uraganuu Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Those numbers can differ depending on target's amount of armor, damage mitigation, armor type, aswell as other auras or buffs. A 530 DK will never do more damage than a 550 DK on the exact same target, with the exact same conditions of buffs and auras. If they do, it's a "learn to play" issue, not a "bug". Considering Pujo doesn't use ~4 skills in the DK toolset, I'm inclining to thing it's a "learn to play" issue even more,
pujo2 Posted April 1, 2016 Author Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) Those numbers can differ depending on target's amount of armor, damage mitigation, armor type, aswell as other auras or buffs. A 530 DK will never do more damage than a 550 DK on the exact same target, with the exact same conditions of buffs and auras. If they do, it's a "learn to play" issue, not a "bug". Considering Pujo doesn't use ~4 skills in the DK toolset, I'm inclining to thing it's a "learn to play" issue even more, Armor/armor type don't affect on magic dmg recieved, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvqC6gW7-kk here u can see that u just talking bullshit, 7/7 bg buffs, trinket procs, 21k dot. 1. http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=55078/blood-plague , http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=55095/frost-fever DK base DOT dmg is lower than it should: 535ilvl dk doing 31k dots just with trinkets procs + berseker, (update) Berseker is 30% dmg, he is doing 30k with berseker, 25k crits without berseker, 1 proc active: http://prnt.sc/aknz7k, im doing 21k without berseker with 550 ilvl, 2 trinkets proc active, still lower than it should for 550 ilvl dks.(update) Even if in the video there was a 530ilvl doing 20k crits, 550 ilvl should do more dmg, not the same.., and its even higher http://prnt.sc/ako15l 23k crit dot, 1 trinket proc up, still higher than here in 550ilvl dk, same raid buffs: dk in blood stance 630k hp: http://prnt.sc/afj7tq so the low ilvl is real Pandawow, 550 dk, full enchants, 2 trinkets up, mannoroth shoulders (same conditions as in the video, except that i have 7/7 buffs to increase dmg, in the retail video he just have 4/7 of raid buffs and still lower dmg in pandawow): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvqC6gW7-kk --> 21k max dot from 550ivl dk (the shadow one).. Realm: fun Prio: 100/10 23-25k crits from 530ilvl retail, 21k crits fromn 550ilvl on pandawow. - - - Updated - - - Don't close the trhead like wtf, there is 1 video from retail as proff and 1 from pandawow in same procs to compare dmg, dmg in retail was higher on dots than here... if griveous dk doing more dmg in dots than prideful dk here, even with more raid buffs (7/7 pandawow 4/7 retail video) in pandawow is doing less dmg, something is wrong here.. Pandawow full strengh built dmg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWkNtHRbpsM Warriors without any strengh gem are doing bigger bleed dmg than dk with full strengh gems in this server, which is retarded, dk dots should be higher, and more even if full strengh build if this server is blizzlike then fix this Dk DOT dmg Edited April 1, 2016 by pujo2 1
Saylance Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 For Blood Plague: damage for Frost per tick = 197 + attack power * 0.158 damage for Unholy per tick = (197 + (attack power * 0.158)) * 1.6 * 1.mastery For Frost Fever: 1 tick for Unholy DK = (166+(42658* 0.158))*1.6 = ~11049 We have now = 11048 1 tick for Frost DK = (166+(33185*0.158))*1.34 = ~7248 We have now = 7264 Calculate damage for Blood Plague damage by that formula. I have no time now. And Frost Fever work as should.
Señorpujo Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 1 tick for Unholy DK = (166+(42658* 0.158))*1.6 = ~11049 We have now = 11048 (nope: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWkNtHRbpsM 9k with full strengh gems) 1 tick for Frost DK = (166+(33185*0.158))*1.34 = ~7248 We have now = 7264 (nope: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWkNtHRbpsM 6k with full strengh gems)
Saylance Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Señorpujo, Maybe becouse you test in PvP ? All test should do in dummy.
Deielrion Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 No... No... Pujo, this dk is hitting 28k crits with zerk buff which means only 13-14k normal hits... How do you know if you're also using the same raid buffs considering you can't even see them? If you're comparing your results to a guy with zerk buff and the 5% increased str buff, then your report is obviously going to be invalid. Just fyi, my dots hit harder here than in the vid while in arena - meaning that I have no zerk buff and I'm not fully buffed. You're probably mistaking his 23k hit with death coil... @Saylance, the reason he's doing it in PvP is probably because he's comparing it to the example he's provided which was also done in PvP.
Markzxy Posted April 3, 2016 Posted April 3, 2016 (edited) hehehehe ... just got a 90k deathcoil crit in my face on my boomkin http://i.imgur.com/D8utpQS.jpg yeye todesmantel = deathcoil .. german xD But hey dk is fine :D:D ah and btw the 107k soulreaper NONCRIT above is also nice 4Head Edited April 3, 2016 by Markzxy
Señorpujo Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 hehehehe ... just got a 90k deathcoil crit in my face on my boomkin http://i.imgur.com/D8utpQS.jpg yeye todesmantel = deathcoil .. german xD But hey dk is fine :D:D ah and btw the 107k soulreaper NONCRIT above is also nice 4Head Amm no? i never did over 75k deathcoil in arena, i do 100k death coils in pve in open world with pve trinket..
Nemifest Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 Amm no? i never did over 75k deathcoil in arena, i do 100k death coils in pve in open world with pve trinket.. LOL, it clearly says 107k. Stop denying the truth now.
Repitchx Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 Amm no? i never did over 75k deathcoil in arena, i do 100k death coils in pve in open world with pve trinket.. i know right? only 1.2k bads qq about dks. dks are so nerfed lol. dots barely do any dmg all they need to do is nerf destro lock and the game is balanced http://www.lowbird.com/data/images/2014/11/pro6adm-700wa-0.gif
pujo2 Posted April 4, 2016 Author Posted April 4, 2016 LOL, it clearly says 107k. Stop denying the truth now. i just say i personally can't do +80k death coils on arena, at least i never did that wtf
Nemifest Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 i just say i personally can't do +80k death coils on arena, at least i never did that wtf Well, of course a 1.2k average rated player doesn't know how to strategize his skills, that's obvious why you can't do that damage. LOL 1
pujo2 Posted April 4, 2016 Author Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) Well, of course a 1.2k average rated player doesn't know how to strategize his skills, that's obvious why you can't do that damage. LOL 2.979 pve set, and 2880 pvp set, 2,8k war + dk comp pve set, 2,640 ret + dk comp pvp set :), and did on 1c1 vs sadmana 5-0 even vs his necro and death siphon bugs, he wasn't able to win me 1c1.. Now u can just shut up. Edited April 4, 2016 by pujo2
Nemifest Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 2.979 pve set, and 2880 pvp set, 2,8k war + dk comp pve set, 2,640 ret + dk comp pvp set :), and did on 1c1 vs sadmana 5-0 even vs his necro and death siphon bugs, he wasn't able to win me 1c1.. Now u can just shut up. Actually I kill the Hogger. Get on my level.
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