А8 так хорoшо сидит н мнe Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 1. http://wow.gamepedia.com/Seasoned_Soldier / http://db.pandawow.me/?spell=12712 [spoiler=Описание] http://s019.radikal.ru/i615/1704/90/4582f5192642.png 2. Увеличивает урон в статах на 25%. Но уменьшает урон 25% скиллов, т.е. не влияет на них вообще. N × 1,25 / 1,25 = N 2.1. На этом скрине я не в спеке армса => я без http://db.pandawow.me/?spell=12712 Смотрим на урон в ближнем бою, там [7269-7314]. Средний урон 7291 [spoiler=Без умелого воина] http://s56.radikal.ru/i154/1704/f7/8d5c0f3e1210.png 2.2. На этом скрине Я В СПЕКЕ АРМСА => у меня есть http://db.pandawow.me/?spell=12712 Тут же мой урон [9086-9142]. Средний урон 9114 [spoiler=Умелый воин наблюдается] http://s45.radikal.ru/i108/1704/7d/39fe83ff97ef.png Верно ли влияет пассивка на урон? Да, 7291 × 1,25 = 9113,75. Тут мы разобрались, всё верно 2.3. Для тестов я взял http://db.pandawow.me?item=2533, скорость 3.3, нормализацию урона можно не учитывать для пушек с такой скоростью: 1.7 for daggers 2.4 for other one-handed weapons 3.3 for two-handed weapons 2.8 for ranged weapons В нашем случае 3.3 for two-handed weapons. Всё верно Тестанём несколько скиллов... Мои статы: http://s020.radikal.ru/i720/1704/75/825992bbf3d6.png 1. http://db.pandawow.me?spell=1464#changelog Формула: 275% from weapon damage + 3427 2. [spoiler=Дамаг слема]http://s010.radikal.ru/i311/1704/9a/06904e969ab4.png Я нанёс 19952, 39990(19995), 19946 урона слемом. Получается вот так у нас: 9114 × 2,75 / 1,25 = 20050 У нас такая формула 275% from weapon damage / 1.25. 3. Я должен был нанести вот столько урона 9114 × 2,75 + 3427 = 28490,5 Должна быть вот такая вот формула 275% from weapon damage + 3427 1. http://db.pandawow.me?spell=12294#changelog Формула: 215% from weapon damage + 3309 2. [spoiler=Дамаг мортала]http://s019.radikal.ru/i643/1704/91/ffe57c157dd5.png Я нанёс 16155 урона морталом. Получается вот так у нас: 9114 × 2,15 / 1,25 = 15676 У нас такая формула 215% from weapon damage / 1.25. 3. Я должен был нанести вот столько урона 9114 × 2,15 + 3309 = 22904 Должна быть вот такая вот формула 215% from weapon damage + 3309 3. КАК ДОЛЖЕН ВЛИЯТЬ УМЕЛЫЙ ВОИН НА СКИЛЫ? ВСЁ ПРОСТО. Умелый воин влияет на урон автоатаки воина => он уже влияет на все скилы, которые зависят от weapon damage. В этой теме я точно разбираюсь. http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=208808 4. x100/fun/cross 5. 06/04/17 6. 10/10. PS. if anyone from qa-squad want to tell me that i'm wrong, close that thread and kill yourself. expect heisenberg 1
WorstWarriorNA Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 I'm not from the QA squad and I want to tell you that you're wrong. And to kill yourself :wink:
Noneedholy Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) PS. if anyone from qa-squad want to tell me that i'm wrong' date=' close that thread and kill yourself. expect heisenberg[/quote'] For that you should write in proper english first. I can't understand shit but i didnt see any proofs so rather try it again in english ty No im srs, i dont understand jack shit therefore i cant tell you that you are wrong ... even tho i know that you are because PS. if anyone from qa-squad want to tell me that i'm wrong' date=' close that thread and kill yourself. expect heisenberg[/quote'] you are just a salty warrior. Try to explain it in english :) Edited April 5, 2017 by Noneedholy
Repitchx Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 For that you should probably poper english first. I can't understand shit but i didnt see any proofs so rather try it again in english ty this also what affects slam 5.4.8 just curious, where did you get that seasoned soldier should work with slam etc? just curious. milorad got some proof from wowhead that it shouldn't be. everything is in russian, so i'm not going to translate everything. PS: topic starter is M.I.A aka Wexexe i think.
WorstWarriorNA Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 1. http://wow.gamepedia.com/Seasoned_Soldier / http://db.pandawow.me/?spell=12712 [spoiler=Описание] http://s019.radikal.ru/i615/1704/90/4582f5192642.png 2. Увеличивает урон в статах на 25%. Но уменьшает урон 25% скиллов, т.е. не влияет на них вообще. N × 1,25 / 1,25 = N 2.1. На этом скрине я не в спеке армса => я без http://db.pandawow.me/?spell=12712 Смотрим на урон в ближнем бою, там [7269-7314]. Средний урон 7291 [spoiler=Без умелого воина] http://s56.radikal.ru/i154/1704/f7/8d5c0f3e1210.png 2.2. На этом скрине Я В СПЕКЕ АРМСА => у меня есть http://db.pandawow.me/?spell=12712 Тут же мой урон [9086-9142]. Средний урон 9114 [spoiler=Умелый воин наблюдается] http://s45.radikal.ru/i108/1704/7d/39fe83ff97ef.png Верно ли влияет пассивка на урон? Да, 7291 × 1,25 = 9113,75. Тут мы разобрались, всё верно 2.3. Для тестов я взял http://db.pandawow.me?item=2533, скорость 3.3, нормализацию урона можно не учитывать для пушек с такой скоростью: В нашем случае 3.3 for two-handed weapons. Всё верно Тестанём несколько скиллов... Мои статы: http://s020.radikal.ru/i720/1704/75/825992bbf3d6.png 3. КАК ДОЛЖЕН ВЛИЯТЬ УМЕЛЫЙ ВОИН НА СКИЛЫ? ВСЁ ПРОСТО. Умелый воин влияет на урон автоатаки воина => он уже влияет на все скилы, которые зависят от weapon damage. В этой теме я точно разбираюсь. http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=208808 4. x100/fun/cross 5. 06/04/17 6. 10/10. PS. if anyone from qa-squad want to tell me that i'm wrong, close that thread and kill yourself. expect heisenberg This whole report in a nutshell: "may kles iz byugd, du now demej pliz baf worior slem"
M.I.A. Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 this also what affects slam 5.4.8 just curious, where did you get that seasoned soldier should work with slam etc? just curious. milorad got some proof from wowhead that it shouldn't be. everything is in russian, so i'm not going to translate everything. ahhahaha, now you have provided my proofs thread. You are write that it doesn't affect. But i said seasoned soldier affect on DAMAGE FROM AUTOATTACK IN STATS => but we have autoattack*1.25*N(2.75)/1.25. IF you have logic, please stop write bullshit what i can answer to noneed. nothing. He's idiot goddamn retarded
WorstWarriorNA Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 ahhahaha, now you have provided my thread. You are write that it doesn't affect. But i said seasoned soldier affect DAMAGE FROM AUTOATTACK IN STATS => but we have autoattack*1.25*N(2.75)/1.25. IF you have logic, please stop write bullshit what i can answer to noneed. nothing. He's idiot goddamn retarded What do you meeeeeeeeeeeeeean. Plz take some english lessons this is just a joke, no not the report your english is a joke.
M.I.A. Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 All that you write... You dishonor only your qa-squad.
Repitchx Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 ahhahaha, now you have provided my proofs thread. You are write that it doesn't affect. But i said seasoned soldier affect on DAMAGE FROM AUTOATTACK IN STATS => but we have autoattack*1.25*N(2.75)/1.25. IF you have logic, please stop write bullshit what i can answer to noneed. nothing. He's idiot goddamn retarded And why would it affect Revenge, Colossus Smash and other abilities then?
WorstWarriorNA Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 All that you write... You dishonor only your qa-squad. I'm not in QA... If you weren't as dumb as a bat flying backwards you would have noticed it. You're a disgrace and you're english is as well I'd suggest you just give up before you make a bigger fool of yourself (if possible after your comments)
M.I.A. Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 And why would it affect Revenge, Colossus Smash and other abilities then? It affects on damage in stats(autoattack) => affects all skill that affected by weapon damage. My english is bad, I know - - - Добавлено - - - MAIN PROOF THAT SEASONED SOLDIER SHOULDN'T AFFECT ON SLAM (/1.25) this also what affects slam 5.4.8 AND NOW I STOP WRITTING. YOU ARE ALL DUMB-IDIOTS
Repitchx Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 It affects on damage in stats(autoattack) => affects all skill that affected by weapon damage. My english is bad, I know not sure what you mean. "affects on damage in stats" i mean, so is colossus smash and revenge?.. no clue what you mean :/
Noneedholy Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) It affects on damage in stats(autoattack) => affects all skill that affected by weapon damage. My english is bad, I know - - - Добавлено - - - MAIN PROOF THAT SEASONED SOLDIER SHOULDN'T AFFECT ON SLAM (/1.25) AND NOW I STOP WRITTING. YOU ARE ALL DUMB-IDIOTS The thing is ... you proofed it by urself that ur wrong ... so you say it should be affected by all Weapon dmg based attacks ... so thats also the reason why it's not listed there right ? Why does it show up for col. smash and overpower ? This 2 attacks are both based on Weapon damage Explanation ? Or did i miss something AND NOW I STOP WRITTING. YOU ARE ALL DUMB-IDIOTS And you are wondering about people laughing about you or not believing in ur reports ? Mate get real and talk like a normal human being. Disgusting rage kiddo wwwwwwwwwexxexeexewetrash Don't call people dumb because they don't understand what you want. Your english is just terrible, thats not our fault http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=204397&p=1226541#post1226541 Not the first time you are doing ... Oh how do you guys like to say that ? Fake reports ? http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=204397&p=1226541#post1226541 Anyways just answer my questions because thats a contradiction in itself that spells which are based on weapon dmg are not shown, yet we can see spells in the list which are based on weapon dmg. Edited April 5, 2017 by Noneedholy
ahmedov345 Posted April 6, 2017 Posted April 6, 2017 Почему мы должны переводить МеГОКЛАССНЫМ англичанинам репорт на англ? Если так захотят - переведут, их никто не заставляет засирать данную тему своими помойными коментами. Уже не ё раз наблюдается, что ноунид апаут себе друидиков, аутсбач(иликакеготам) варлоков, а репич рог вообще не трогайет (канешн там всё нормально, ничего багнутого) И ВСЕ ОНИ хотят порезать воинов с дк, одного турбач в 3с фармит (ноунда) - второго в его тандере (репич на элеме) тоже по кд вары пинают. Зачем в QA держать помойку, которая ламает рабочие классы и делает их банально неиграбельными? Чутка введу вас в курс дела: С данным фиксом по мне вар под Аватарой, флаской на 4к силы, фулл проками ипрочими кдшками ударил мне в латы 80к критом, а теперь самый главный вопрос, что чуваки которые должны фиксить баги наоборот их вызывают, делают фейк репорты и ламают полностью класс, забыли в QA??? (ты должен был бороться со злом, а не примкнуть к нему)
Repitchx Posted April 6, 2017 Posted April 6, 2017 Почему мы должны переводить МеГОКЛАССНЫМ англичанинам репорт на англ? Если так захотят - переведут, их никто не заставляет засирать данную тему своими помойными коментами. Уже не ё раз наблюдается, что ноунид апаут себе друидиков, аутсбач(иликакеготам) варлоков, а репич рог вообще не трогайет (канешн там всё нормально, ничего багнутого) И ВСЕ ОНИ хотят порезать воинов с дк, одного турбач в 3с фармит (ноунда) - второго в его тандере (репич на элеме) тоже по кд вары пинают. Зачем в QA держать помойку, которая ламает рабочие классы и делает их банально неиграбельными? Чутка введу вас в курс дела: С данным фиксом по мне вар под Аватарой, флаской на 4к силы, фулл проками ипрочими кдшками ударил мне в латы 80к критом, а теперь самый главный вопрос, что чуваки которые должны фиксить баги наоборот их вызывают, делают фейк репорты и ламают полностью класс, забыли в QA??? (ты должен был бороться со злом, а не примкнуть к нему) How about you stop making up lies and actually do something useful for this community for once? We are asking questions, nothing more. Now bugger off, PQR DK.
QA retard Posted April 6, 2017 Posted April 6, 2017 How about you stop making up lies and actually do something useful for this community for once? How about to stfu and stop write shit in theard like this and stop write fake reports with your gay team (noretard, milodick and autistbatch) Now bugger off' date=' PQR DK.[/quote'] Now retard off, stupid rogue. We are asking questions' date=' nothing more.[/quote'] we do not care what you are asking fkin piece of shit
Repitchx Posted April 6, 2017 Posted April 6, 2017 How about to stfu and stop write shit in theard like this and stop write fake reports with your gay team (noretard, milodick and autistbatch) Now retard off, stupid rogue. we do not care what you are asking fkin piece of shit 1. Умелый воин (http://prntscr.com/eoa11j) 2. It is applying the 25% damage increase to Slam , Mortal Strike , Overpower , undefined 3. Should only apply to: Shockwave , Bladestorm , Dragon Roar , Execute , undefined , Thunder Clap , Heroic Leap , Victory Rush. 4. 3/25/2017 5. fun/x100/cross 6. 10/10 Check every single link I posted, in the http://prntscr.com/eoa5ce "modified by" tab, it says seasoned soldier, for Slam/Mortal Strike/ Colossus Smash/ Overpower it doesnt, these spells shouldn't get the 25% damage bonus. + If you look at every spell that I linked that should be affected by Seasoned Soldier, there's a little checkbox that says "seasoned soldier" http://prnt.sc/eoktwi, but for slam/ms/overpower/col smash, it isn't there. http://prntscr.com/eoktvd Warriors had increased damage since any MoP server, and none of them have it fixed, no one knew what the extra damage was, this is the only thing that explains the warrior damage. Every player complains about warrior damage, and as a warrior main this is 100% a valid report. - http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=214051 ) Again, I only asked a question, nothing more. Don't need to be upset. Try to act professional, wex. KFC hero.
Монктупой Posted April 6, 2017 Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) REPITCH, 2.1. На этом скрине я не в спеке армса => я без http://db.pandawow.me/?spell=12712 Смотрим на урон в ближнем бою, там [7269-7314]. Средний урон 7291 [spoiler=Без умелого воина] http://s56.radikal.ru/i154/1704/f7/8d5c0f3e1210.png 2.2. На этом скрине Я В СПЕКЕ АРМСА => у меня есть http://db.pandawow.me/?spell=12712 Тут же мой урон [9086-9142]. Средний урон 9114 [spoiler=Умелый воин наблюдается] http://s45.radikal.ru/i108/1704/7d/39fe83ff97ef.png Верно ли влияет пассивка на урон? Да, 7291 × 1,25 = 9113,75. Тут мы разобрались, всё верно PS. if anyone from qa-squad want to tell me that i'm wrong, close that thread and kill yourself. expect heisenberg Seasoned soldier increase weapon damage for 25%. Right? Yes :) Weapon damage affects on slam, colossus smash, mortal, over and etc. QA retard is not my account. You are the one who has brain. What we have now: seasoned soldier reduce slam, over, mortal, colussus and etc damage. Just try to penetrate in my words, i've made the report on russian language, there are proofs, but u haven't tried to understand that one Edited April 6, 2017 by Монктупой
Noneedholy Posted April 6, 2017 Posted April 6, 2017 Seasoned soldier increase weapon damage for 25%. Right? Yes Weapon damage affects on slam' date=' colossus smash, mortal, over and etc.[/quote'] Guys ... 1st of all only because theres a weapon in the picture, doesnt mean it increases all damage done. It says it increases total damage done, yes. But as with much other abilities blizzard set an restriction because as you can see, there are weapon dmg based attacks in the "modified by" tab and other weapon based attacks are just not listed. That's all we can say, find a proof and post it. Idc then The weapon damage you see in ur stats is the "normalized weapon damage" Calculations are done with the normal weaponm damage not with the weapon damage + all passives lol ...
Milorad Posted April 6, 2017 Posted April 6, 2017 Valid proof was given to accept my claim for this report. If you are not pleased, please, go find proof that seasoned soldier should affect slam/ms/overpower/col smash, and prove me wrong. Don't start random threads crying because you're a pandawow warrior hero that is used to 100-0ing someone in a stormbolt stun. Either accept the reality you're in, or find proof for the alternate reality you wish for. I'm a warrior main myself, I nerfed my own class, AND IM BEYOND FINE WITH IT. Just because 90% of pandawow players are all biased towards their own class, doesn't mean the other 10% are just gonna stay silent and not gonna report bugs that impact the class that they play. You're just wasting you're time, you're either going to get banned off the forums for spamming and creating 1000 topics, or you'll just accomplish nothing. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, not everyone will agree with the warrior fix, but it is the reality you got, and it is a valid one. You'll grow onto it, you'll learn how to properly do a warrior rotation without just using slam when ever you've rage. 1
spirtirs Posted April 6, 2017 Posted April 6, 2017 Зачем в QA держать помойку' date=' которая ламает рабочие классы и делает их банально неиграбельными?[/quote'] Вары сейчас посасывают - - - Добавлено - - - UP WARRIOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ahmedov345 Posted April 6, 2017 Posted April 6, 2017 Тема была сделана не для очень умных(нет) тестеров, которые фиксят всё через жопу, а нормальных разработчиков, которые шарят что они делают. (#Neffa_v_temu) Theard were created nor for very smart(no) QA team, it is for developers, so you can not tryhard to write shit here and just stfu.
Repitchx Posted April 6, 2017 Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) Тема была сделана не для очень умных(нет) тестеров, которые фиксят всё через жопу, а нормальных разработчиков, которые шарят что они делают. (#Neffa_v_temu) Theard were created nor for very smart(no) QA team, it is for developers, so you can not tryhard to write shit here and just stfu. Just want to say that without us, the server would've made no progress as everytime they apply 1 fix, they can bug out 3-4 other spells. (before you make up bullshit "shroom got bugged, auto attack got bugged" etc. We can't test literally every spell in the game as it's mostly like max 2-3 people from QA that actually do test bugs. I usually do all of them myself before and after work.) So maybe you can do something useful for the server for once instead of using hacks and trash talk all the time? =) Noneed and Milo already commented, so reply to them if you want something. Oh, I forgot. I also work for free =) So shut your mouth, enjoy what you have and stop complaining. That's the only thing that comes out of your mouth, just complaints and lies. If you find proof, post it in the report. I don't see anything to be honest. Just empty words. Edited April 6, 2017 by Repitchx
ahmedov345 Posted April 6, 2017 Posted April 6, 2017 If you find proof' date=' post it in the report. I don't see anything to be honest. Just empty words.[/quote'] Why are you so retarded? i will not proof anything to retards wich is writing fake reports and saying "ohhhhhhhhhhhh i made for this server more than you can even emagine" you are not developer, you are just tester, so stfu, log on ptr and test therad that you have in QA section. Now look, stupid piece of shit: http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=208422&p=1254233&viewfull=1#post1254233 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=113540&page=2&p=1254826&viewfull=1#post1254826 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=207296&p=1254814&viewfull=1#post1254814 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=126025&page=4&p=1254812&viewfull=1#post1254812 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=122776&p=1254792&viewfull=1#post1254792 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=182557&p=1254784&viewfull=1#post1254784 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=182681&page=3&p=1254240&viewfull=1#post1254240 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=169043&p=1254647&viewfull=1#post1254647 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=122742&page=2&p=1254704&viewfull=1#post1254704 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=137963&p=1100156&viewfull=1#post1100156 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=131913&p=1100133&viewfull=1#post1100133 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=169242&page=3&p=1098954&viewfull=1#post1098954 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=151290&p=1100166&viewfull=1#post1100166 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=175694&p=1100138&viewfull=1#post1100138 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=145366&p=1100187&viewfull=1#post1100187 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=160893&page=4&p=1103858&viewfull=1#post1103858 You can chek "Fixed" and you will find more and more comments from me in bug reports WICH I TESTED, not tryed to broke the class like your gamebreaking team.
Noneedholy Posted April 6, 2017 Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) Why are you so retarded? i will not proof anything to retards wich is writing fake reports and saying "ohhhhhhhhhhhh i made for this server more than you can even emagine" you are not developer, you are just tester, so stfu, log on ptr and test therad that you have in QA section. Now look, stupid piece of shit: http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=208422&p=1254233&viewfull=1#post1254233 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=113540&page=2&p=1254826&viewfull=1#post1254826 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=207296&p=1254814&viewfull=1#post1254814 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=126025&page=4&p=1254812&viewfull=1#post1254812 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=122776&p=1254792&viewfull=1#post1254792 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=182557&p=1254784&viewfull=1#post1254784 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=182681&page=3&p=1254240&viewfull=1#post1254240 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=169043&p=1254647&viewfull=1#post1254647 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=122742&page=2&p=1254704&viewfull=1#post1254704 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=137963&p=1100156&viewfull=1#post1100156 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=131913&p=1100133&viewfull=1#post1100133 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=169242&page=3&p=1098954&viewfull=1#post1098954 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=151290&p=1100166&viewfull=1#post1100166 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=175694&p=1100138&viewfull=1#post1100138 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=145366&p=1100187&viewfull=1#post1100187 http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=160893&page=4&p=1103858&viewfull=1#post1103858 You can chek "Fixed" and you will find more and more comments from me in bug reports WICH I TESTED, not tryed to broke the class like your gamebreaking team. Blablabla Get a point ... you cry like a lil 13y old kid that lost a game in CS:GO ... It's funny because whatever we said, you can NOT proof us wrong, yet you complain about "Fake reports"? I'm still waiting for an proof that it's fake ? Read our last answers you Crybaby Milo posted a proof, you are just writing here and cry that everything is unfair. Guess who they will believe ? God you are so clueless :D As i said before noone will deny anything when you post proofs ... but all i see are words from you guys HOW IT SHOULD WORK. Without a proof that it's like that. I won't say anything if you bring a valid proof i swear. But till then stay less toxic and try to write smth usefull instead of blaming everyone whos not with ur opinion. Bye, not gonna explain further. I told you guys my PoV and till now noone could argue against my point, all you guys did pretty much was trashtalking. Gj on that, thats sad. Anyways gonna response when there will be some1 with an valid Point. Edited April 6, 2017 by Noneedholy 1
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