dotadoom Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 1. http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=49143 2. is not affected by http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=77514 3. the damage should be increased by http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=77514 since it is Frost 4. 12/16/2014 5. Fun realm 6. 8/10 1 Link to comment
dfabel Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I think it's all the realms. Link to comment
sotoh Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) Well, i can't believe it, but it's true, Mastery doesn't affect Frost Strike and here the Evidence: My DK Main Hand Damage: 16,315 - 22903 Without buffs, only Horn of Winter and Presence dmg to dummy is: Frost Strike in DW is 173% weapon DMG: 16315 - 22903 * 1.73 = 28224 - 39622 Main Hand 28224 - 39622 * 1.5231 = 42987 - 60348 Still Missing Mastery Total Damage Should be: 42987 - 60348 * Mastery (in my case 33.30%) = 57301 - 80443 http://i.imgur.com/xRYsKNy.png Edited December 17, 2014 by sotoh Image Size Link to comment
dotadoom Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 @sotoh you don't add PvP power when fighting non-players however your math is right, because you forgot http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=66192 Link to comment
sotoh Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 No i added multiplier is 1.73 by 173% weapon DMG Link to comment
dotadoom Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 28224 - 39622 * 1.5231 = 42987 - 60348 replace this with 28224 - 39622 * 1.5 = 42336 - 59433 ( http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=66192 ) (pvp power doesn't count when attacking dummies :) ) Link to comment
kaibakor2012 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) Incorrect. This bug report is false. Just tested it.. The in-game tooltip you see is wrong. It already accounts for your passives and baseline mastery. According to this (http://wow.gamepedia.com/Frost_Strike ), in 5.4.8 the damage of Frost Strike is 115% Weapon Damage. Frost DKs have Might of the Frozen Wastes (http://wow.gamepedia.com/Might_of_the_Frozen_Wastes) which increases Frost Strike's damage by 30%. So it becomes 1,3 * 115 = 149,5% Weapon Damage. On my DK I have 31,60% Mastery which should make Frost Strike's damage approximately 149,5 * 1,316 = 196.742% Weapon Damage. With my 24,601 - 32,800 Weapon Damage I calculated that without any procs and interferences my Frost Strike should hit the dummy for an amount between 48,400 and 64,531. Out of 27 Frost Strikes, my average was 55,550 and my maximum was 62,610. So I guess it's working as intended. Edited January 6, 2015 by kaibakor2012 Link to comment
Shepard Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Incorrect. This bug report is false. Just tested it.. The in-game tooltip you see is wrong. It already accounts for your passives and baseline mastery. According to this (http://wow.gamepedia.com/Frost_Strike ), in 5.4.8 the damage of Frost Strike is 115% Weapon Damage. Frost DKs have Might of the Frozen Wastes (http://wow.gamepedia.com/Might_of_the_Frozen_Wastes) which increases Frost Strike's damage by 30%. So it becomes 1,3 * 115 = 149,5% Weapon Damage. On my DK I have 31,60% Mastery which should make Frost Strike's damage approximately 149,5 * 1,316 = 196.742% Weapon Damage. With my 24,601 - 32,800 Weapon Damage I calculated that without any procs and interferences my Frost Strike should hit the dummy for an amount between 48,400 and 64,531. Out of 27 Frost Strikes, my average was 55,550 and my maximum was 62,610. So I guess it's working as intended. Yea but does http://wow.gamepedia.com/Threat_of_Thassarian work? Link to comment
dotadoom Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 Incorrect. This bug report is false. Just tested it.. The in-game tooltip you see is wrong. It already accounts for your passives and baseline mastery. According to this (http://wow.gamepedia.com/Frost_Strike ), in 5.4.8 the damage of Frost Strike is 115% Weapon Damage. Frost DKs have Might of the Frozen Wastes (http://wow.gamepedia.com/Might_of_the_Frozen_Wastes) which increases Frost Strike's damage by 30%. So it becomes 1,3 * 115 = 149,5% Weapon Damage. On my DK I have 31,60% Mastery which should make Frost Strike's damage approximately 149,5 * 1,316 = 196.742% Weapon Damage. With my 24,601 - 32,800 Weapon Damage I calculated that without any procs and interferences my Frost Strike should hit the dummy for an amount between 48,400 and 64,531. Out of 27 Frost Strikes, my average was 55,550 and my maximum was 62,610. So I guess it's working as intended. try that without mastery gear Link to comment
kaibakor2012 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) Stripped almost all my gear.. got left with 19.46% Mastery. Should've hit for 32,436 - 47,079 damage.. (178.6 Weapon Damage) 29 Frost Strike hits. Min: 32,832 ; Average: 38,609 ; Max: 46,674 It's obviously working as intended. EDIT: For the guy above: Threat of Thassarian is working as well. Obliterate, on the other hand, is acting pretty weird. Will report it. Edited January 8, 2015 by kaibakor2012 Link to comment
dotadoom Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 well I do like 210% normal damage w/o gear Link to comment
kaibakor2012 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Dude I gave you my exact calcualations, with numbers as well. It's working just fine. Link to comment
dotadoom Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 I think you have no idea how wow mechanics work nor you know how to make proper tests. Please do me a favour and let the testers try this instead. Link to comment
kaibakor2012 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Well.. apparently you know better. Saying that a 115% Weapon Damage ability is doing too low damage by hitting for 210%... Nice. I have no choice but to agree. Link to comment
kaibakor2012 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) My items: http://s29.postimg.org/9api6secn/Wo_WScrn_Shot_010815_212742.jpg (obviously you can't get lower than 16% mastery.. I have no idea how you tested that without mastery.. but I won't argue cause obviously you have so much idea of how WoW mechanics work). My melee hits: http://s24.postimg.org/i7vm1ek9x/Wo_WScrn_Shot_010815_212747.jpg Look at my average: 187 My Frost Strike hits: http://s3.postimg.org/5sb6g0vzn/Wo_WScrn_Shot_010815_212751.jpg Average is 250 Frost Strike's damage formula: http://wow.gamepedia.com/Frost_Strike Patch 5.4.0 (2013-09-10): Now deals 115% weapons damage (up from 105% weapon damage). What increases Frost Strike's damage? Might of the Frozen Wastes (by 30%) and Mastery. Might of the Frozen Wastes is already affecting my white hits, though, so we won't be taking it into consideration. My mastery during the test is 16%. That means that Frost Strike's damage is 115% * 116% = 115% * 1.16 = 133.4% Now take my average white hits (187) and multiply it by 133.4%. 187 * 133.4% = 187 * 1.334 = 249.458. Isnt 249.458 pretty close to the 250 average I got in my tests? If the 16% mastery wasn't working the damage would be lower.. But it matches perfectly. Now shut the hell up and never report a bug again. The bug report is 100% invalid. If there's anyone that has no idea how WoW mechanics work that's you. Edited January 8, 2015 by kaibakor2012 Link to comment
dotadoom Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) @kaibakor2012 http://media.giphy.com/media/akWHJqpMWQvpS/giphy.gif >be "tester" hitting a dummy >don't know even small dummies have 10% armor >armor reduces physical damage >auto attacks deal physical damage >but frost strike doesn't >your face when you realize your math is a bit off ------------------------------------------------ I made this report like 3 weeks ago. Today I tested it again and it's now indeed working as intended /thread close topic Edited January 8, 2015 by dotadoom Link to comment
kaibakor2012 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 So apparently when I test it and it's working fine it isn't and I'm wrong and my math is wrong and I have no idea about WoW mechanics.. but when you test it and it's working fine all of a sudded it's fine indeed but I'm still wrong. Nice logic m8. I really don't think that dummies have armor, at least in Pandawow.. And if they have - it should be really negligible. Now go to my Obliterate bug report, read my proof in the OP and tell me more about how dummies have armor and I'm wrong. What will you come up with? That my white hits on the dummy are reduced by armor but my Obliterates aren't? You said two things today: that Frost Strike damage is bugged and that Obliterate damage is fine... And you're wrong about both of those. That must be your face, not mine. Cya. Link to comment
dotadoom Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) if they didn't your white damage wouldn't be 181 - 192 (~20% more than your original 151-161) and instead it would've been 196-209 (MOTFW adds 30, not 20!) about oblit I haven't tested anything, I only told you the formulas so you can do it instead by correcting you I didn't want to fight.. I wanted to help hope you haven't taken the troll post above too personally - it was a joke (you are obviously math type of a guy) as I said FS is now working as intended, but there was time when it didn't (or at least so I thought, maybe I was wrong who knows? who cares?) so I reported it, because that's why this section is all about - if you find something odd you report it and see other people's opinions about it. It's true that at first I didn't believe you but that's because you were too chaotic and changing topics all the time at the oblit thread, but your maths were looking right and that made me test FS myself again. No need to spam in this topic anymore -- the report is no longer valid -- -- waiting for it to get closed -- Edited January 8, 2015 by dotadoom Link to comment
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