Matukaa Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Hello guys! So I haven't played my frost mage for a while, and I came back today, and decided to have fun with it. 5 minutes were even too much to get ridiculously furious about my Ice Lance damage. I pop my full burst, trinket procs, lightweave procs, jade spirit procs, I have absolutely everything that I need, and then decide to shoot some icelances. BAM, 40k CRIT. This is fucking ridiculous, it doesn't even tickles that amount of damage. Like seriously 40k Crits? How am I supposed to beat a warrior or a warlock or anyone at all?? I know that this isn't retail, and if I say that people on retail hit for over 80k even a warlock, who has 20% damage reduction. That would've been 100k. And I hit for 40k. How is that even possible? I wanted to make a bug report, but I don't even know what's the problem. I have full Prideful gear, with cloak enchant, and in my full burst, I can hit only for 40k, or maximum 45k. And before you ask, my target was a 527 Disc Priest standing in a place doing nothing, casting nothing, with no buffs or anything. Just imagine if I start hitting a warlock or something. 10k Icelances? Powerful and frightening, what can I say. Is there any possible explanation for this? I can't even express how furious I am. Back in the days, when I played my frost, I was hitting for 70-80k, now I can't do anything. I don't even want to mention my frozen orb target's the clouds in the sky, or some butterflies, and wanders totally random, not hitting anyone, that's okay, you can live with that. You might as well say, that I am a noob, and I can't play mages properly. Yea, that's a possibility too, but even if I am a total idiot, having full procs and hitting a button to cast Ice Lance, isn't that hard if you consider it... Some proofs as well, so you won't say that I'm talking random shit (this was my best try. that 33k FF bolt tho): http://i.imgur.com/S7cCGb4.jpg About people on retail: I hope this isn't real, and I do something horribly wrong, so please help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanstus Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Listen up warrior here xD As much as I know Ice Lance dmg quadruples when you deep freeze the target. Also your mirror image and orb don't work as they should in order for them to start doing damage your target must move, not calling you noob just pretty much what I see frost mages do is freeze their target and spam ice lance until deep freeze comes off cooldownm then freeze again and deep for more damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matukaa Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Okay, not that kind of noob. I'm almost 2k, and I actually was over 2k recently, so I know that Ice Lance dmg quadruples when hitting frozen targets... Not when deep freezing them. Any freeze does it. Yea, the 40k is the quadrupled and critted. I hit around 6k without crit and freeze :-? Also, I never spam ice lances before a build-up. I always start from petnova, living bomb (because if the 1st tick crits, every tick crits), burst macro, frozen orb, deepfreeze, and I start casting 3-4 frost bolts for my icicles and the procs meanwhile my frozen orb, mirror images and living bomb is dropping my target down below 50% of their hp. At that time I usually have 2 Fingers of Frost and 1 Brainfreeze effect, I pop my alter time, and release the Ice Lances and Icicles and the FFB. That time, living bomb just wears off, I get another FFB, launch that, alter time again, and start again to launch my stuff. That actually works, and I still have huge amount of damage, but not enough to kill a warrior from defensives... Ice Lancing into Deep Freeze is called being noob. Why would you do that? If you deep freeze, you can get 3 frostbolts off, all of them crits, and like 50% of them is converted in icicles. Your Ice Lance will crit anyways, you have Fingers of Frost, just as FFB, and you can spam 7 of those during 1 alter time meanwhile you release the icicles. Edited January 7, 2015 by Matukaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostshotz Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Okay, not that kind of noob. I'm almost 2k, and I actually was over 2k recently, so I know that Ice Lance dmg quadruples when hitting frozen targets... Not when deep freezing them. Any freeze does it. Yea, the 40k is the quadrupled and critted. I hit around 6k without crit and freeze :-? Also, I never spam ice lances before a build-up. I always start from petnova, living bomb (because if the 1st tick crits, every tick crits), burst macro, frozen orb, deepfreeze, and I start casting 3-4 frost bolts for my icicles and the procs meanwhile my frozen orb, mirror images and living bomb is dropping my target down below 50% of their hp. At that time I usually have 2 Fingers of Frost and 1 Brainfreeze effect, I pop my alter time, and release the Ice Lances and Icicles and the FFB. That time, living bomb just wears off, I get another FFB, launch that, alter time again, and start again to launch my stuff. That actually works, and I still have huge amount of damage, but not enough to kill a warrior from defensives... Ice Lancing into Deep Freeze is called being noob. Why would you do that? If you deep freeze, you can get 3 frostbolts off, all of them crits, and like 50% of them is converted in icicles. Your Ice Lance will crit anyways, you have Fingers of Frost, just as FFB, and you can spam 7 of those during 1 alter time meanwhile you release the icicles. repair char? i did arenas with a mage that does 160k ice lances in arena+i force trinket WOMBO COMBO p.s. playing dlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegodpriest Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 1. Take invocation 2. You want 150k ice lance ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostshotz Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 also how did u install new models?i tried every method but it didnt work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matukaa Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) 1. Take invocation 2. You want 150k ice lance ? yea, but invocation is a waste of time + I use glyph of evocation, because I run double dps, and that 60% heal comes really handy, believe me. I'd rather stick with incanter's ward. Anyways, the difference shouldn't be that high. I tried now with double dps trinkets (pop+proc) and that way I can reach a legit 60-70k lance. It's acceptable, though I'll test it with Invocation too. Is that 150k Ice Lance a sarcastic question, or Invocation really gives that much damage? also how did u install new models?i tried every method but it didnt work Add me on skype, real time help is way better, I'll try to help :D Edited January 7, 2015 by Matukaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegodpriest Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 yea, but invocation is a waste of time + I use glyph of evocation, because I run double dps, and that 60% heal comes really handy, believe me. I'd rather stick with incanter's ward. Anyways, the difference shouldn't be that high. I tried now with double dps trinkets (pop+proc) and that way I can reach a legit 60-70k lance. It's acceptable, though I'll test it with Invocation too. Is that 150k Ice Lance a sarcastic question, or Invocation really gives that much damage? Invocation is not waste of time, all highly ranked mages at pandawow use invocation, even a 0 skilled mage as me use invocation, cuz ward is crap lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaibakor2012 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Why would ward be crap? Is it bugged? It should be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotadoom Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Is that 150k Ice Lance a sarcastic question, or Invocation really gives that much damage? Arcane mages used to do this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matukaa Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 Incanter's a crap? are you serious? ye, you can go with invocation if you play with a healer (as the high rated players do), but if you are playing in a dual dps composition, you need that goddammit heal... 6% base damage increase is good, and if you get that 15% (1 hit from a warrior, and it's broken, so you get that all the time) you'll get 21% increased damage. Not sure tho, maybe the 6% desactivates, but even if so. That 30-35k absorb, is not that bad, you get the damage up, and you still have 60% heal from evocation. You call that crap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matukaa Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 Oh, and by the way, these are some cool icicle damages: http://i.imgur.com/kqEDhog.jpg Sometimes it happens, I don't catch them always, but that's a good example of how buggy icicles are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sysx Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 i prefer http://www.wowwiki.com/Invocation cuz i use often http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=30449 cuz cost alot of mana and playing battlegrounds but http://wow.gamepedia.com/Incanter's_Ward is nice as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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