Repitchx Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) spell: invocation (not a talent anymore in wod) http://www.wowwiki.com/Invocation issue: instantly grants 30% of Mage's mana what should happen: Should only grant 15%. realm: fun priority: 10/10 mages tend to get glyph of spellsteal & spam spellsteal. as soon as they go oom, they can actaully just cast evocation for 0.1 sec to get the mana part, then keep spamming spellsteal. Edited March 17, 2015 by Repitchx 1 Link to comment
lickmyorbs Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 +1 kinda annoying when you think a mage won't be able to barrier or use many spells CP's he is oom, only to find that he has spammed the first tick of evo 3 times and is full mana. Link to comment
Repitchx Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share Posted February 21, 2015 +1 kinda annoying when you think a mage won't be able to barrier or use many spells CP's he is oom, only to find that he has spammed the first tick of evo 3 times and is full mana. yeah. its really freaking annoying. take this 2s game i was doing just now. obviously i lost 2 times in row cuz i was just capping mage can survive on his own for over 1 minute alone, cause of this bug. i have all hots up -> mage spellsteals everything -> goes oom -> 0.1 sec of evo to get mana back -> keep spamming spellsteal -> gives mage 5% hp back per spellsteal use + all the hots from my druid. so freaking stupid. just fix this bug already... Link to comment
garlikas Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 this allows mage to spam spell steal,and healing from spell steal glyph isn't affected by battle fatigue 35k+ heals ftw... Link to comment
Repitchx Posted March 3, 2015 Author Share Posted March 3, 2015 this allows mage to spam spell steal,and healing from spell steal glyph isn't affected by battle fatigue 35k+ heals ftw... Yup, it's extremely OP. Link to comment
madtenshi Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) You see, Invocation has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with how Evocation works. Evocation gives you 15% mana instantly and it still continues to give you mana as you channel it ( It was 45% I believe, so that makes it 60% mana total ). Also, its kinda funny how you all complain about those 20k heals from spellsteal but dont say that Evocation(with invocation) now gives you like 15k hp or so when done channeling. I wont go really deep into this spellsteal heal stuff but in my opinion , shouldnt it be like that ? I mean, it says it gives you a % of your health, not a "certain amount of healing". And as I recall battle fatigue causes you to recieve 60% less healing, not percentage of your health returned. Same goes for evocation, not saying that out of combat 70k evocations are fine, but im saying (again in my opinion) it should give you those 10% of your health as it should be. Edited March 4, 2015 by madtenshi Link to comment
Norther Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Battle fatigue affects all healing no matter if its % healing or not. The bug is that you get full mana insta when you start casting evocation and spell steal health return doesn't get affected by battle fatigue. Link to comment
Repitchx Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 You see, Invocation has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with how Evocation works. Evocation gives you 15% mana instantly and it still continues to give you mana as you channel it ( It was 45% I believe, so that makes it 60% mana total ). Also, its kinda funny how you all complain about those 20k heals from spellsteal but dont say that Evocation(with invocation) now gives you like 15k hp or so when done channeling. I wont go really deep into this spellsteal heal stuff but in my opinion , shouldnt it be like that ? I mean, it says it gives you a % of your health, not a "certain amount of healing". And as I recall battle fatigue causes you to recieve 60% less healing, not percentage of your health returned. Same goes for evocation, not saying that out of combat 70k evocations are fine, but im saying (again in my opinion) it should give you those 10% of your health as it should be. You see, Invocation is a talent that modifies Evocation. You shouldn't get 15% mana back when you have the talent, it should all be given up on finishing the channel. otherwise you'd see every glad mage or every player with a brain use Invocation. Invocation should be fucking useless in PvP. Mages are a very easy kill target, makes it impossible to even finish channeling it to get the spellpower buff. so to clear it up for you and others without: should instantly gain 15% mana back + 45% over time with talent: should gain the mana after finishing the channel the healing from invocation isnt gamebreaking lol. it doesnt heal for anything, idc about that. what we all care about is the fucking bug with the mana part from the spell that makes you enable to spam spellsteal for heals cause it isnt affected by battle fatigue! if glyph of spellsteal shouldnt be affected by battle fatigue, dont you think recuperate shouldnt also? i mean, come on now. 6% of my hp and i have 600k atm on my rogue. i mean... come on now. 36 k ticks sounds just about right, doesnt it? if you think (apparently your opinion) it should actaully give you the 10%, you're out of your f-king mind. mages and rogues would NEVER i repeat NEVER die. Link to comment
uraganuu Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 You make it sound like all profs have a plethora of buffs to dispel. It's powerful against druids and paladins and few others, but once you take down all the buffs you end up with a useless glyph and 0 healing for HUGE mana cost. Stopping to channel it, even for the brief second where it gives you 45k mana, is a HUGE time waste in arenas. I use it in BGs, it's very powerful there, but using it against anything else besides druids in arenas is pure indication of "I suck and get carried" Link to comment
Repitchx Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 You make it sound like all profs have a plethora of buffs to dispel. It's powerful against druids and paladins and few others, but once you take down all the buffs you end up with a useless glyph and 0 healing for HUGE mana cost. Stopping to channel it, even for the brief second where it gives you 45k mana, is a HUGE time waste in arenas. I use it in BGs, it's very powerful there, but using it against anything else besides druids in arenas is pure indication of "I suck and get carried" its never useless as long as you fight spell casters. you can steal more than only buffs, you can steal procs from the opponent's team as well, which makes it far from useless. example vs paladins: hand of freedom, Selfless healer (stacks up to 3 times and Judement grants one stack per use) + people tend to rebuff. so its super good lol, needs to get fixed ASAP. Link to comment
Noneedholy Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 fix THIS and this stupid broken ring, than we are all Happy ! Thanks bye Link to comment
sector1111 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) you need to finish channeling to get the mana. bullshit Edited March 17, 2015 by sector1111 Link to comment
Repitchx Posted March 17, 2015 Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 bullshit stop defending your own class and learn to play legit. Link to comment
sector1111 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 stop defending your own class and learn to play legit. lol stop write this any proofs for your report? - - - Добавлено - - - i think you dont have a proofs, so, watch at my proofs and delete this "report" Link to comment
Repitchx Posted March 17, 2015 Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 lol stop write this any proofs for your report? - - - Добавлено - - - i think you dont have a proofs, so, watch at my proofs and delete this "report" idk. for some reason i really dont trust your "proof". first of all its 5.4.7, not 5.4.8. second of all, you're russian. anyway. if its really like as you say tho, its still bugged. cause you get 40 or 60% mana back as soon as you cast it and 40/60% when you finish it = 100% back from 1 evo then. in that video it was 50k instant and he already had 67k mana. means from 67k mana you should get 270k. in the end, its still extremely buggy on here, so you cant defend that. atm you can cast evo for 0.1 sec -> spam like 3 spellsteals for retarded heals. in that vid you couldn't cast 1 spellsteal, cause you only got 50k back and spellsteal cost 63 or 64k mana. Link to comment
sector1111 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 idk. for some reason i really dont trust your "proof". first of all its 5.4.7, not 5.4.8. second of all, you're russian. anyway. if its really like as you say tho, its still bugged. cause you get 40 or 60% mana back as soon as you cast it and 40/60% when you finish it = 100% back from 1 evo then. in that video it was 50k instant and he already had 67k mana. means from 67k mana you should get 270k. in the end, its still extremely buggy on here, so you cant defend that. atm you can cast evo for 0.1 sec -> spam like 3 spellsteals for retarded heals. in that vid you couldn't cast 1 spellsteal, cause you only got 50k back and spellsteal cost 63 or 64k mana. read this http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=124769 Gain 15% of your total mana instantly work 2x in the start cast, and all your report is bullshit, not more, without proofs and, i'm not a russian - - - Добавлено - - - for some reason i really dont trust your "proof". but you have youtube with different videos go start Link to comment
Repitchx Posted March 17, 2015 Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 read this http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=124769 work 2x in the start cast, and all your report is bullshit, not more, without proofs and, i'm not a russian - - - Добавлено - - - but you have youtube with different videos go start I'll change the bug report, thanks. Although, if you really wanna try to make me look like an idiot, please don't talk to me with half broken English. Link to comment
sector1111 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 please don't talk to me with half broken English im ukrainian man, not from Europe or etc. nothing personal ) Link to comment
Repitchx Posted March 17, 2015 Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 im ukrainian man, not from Europe or etc. nothing personal ) )) It's fine, and I'm from Norway. )) )) ) Link to comment
podara33 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 (edited) yo invo-crapy-cation is bugged to infinity . so listen.... fix this talent , ring of frost ,mirrors (mages in general) , Shroud of Concealment from rogues, remove pve gear from fun server and everything will be 100 times better for everyone .fix these and the gaming experience will be better which means more players will play the server and that will give benefits to the owners of the server and the actual players .dont forget you will fukin give money prize to arena "winners" who play with these bugs . jesus . i dont care if im out of topic . i had to post this here for some reason . ok,thankyou,bye,haveagooddaysir. seriously pandawow fix your game because someone is catching up (m o l t e n) and it will be too late when everyone will be gone for that . be more proffesional ffs .im out peace Edited March 19, 2015 by podara33 1 Link to comment
dfabel Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 yo invo-crapy-cation is bugged to infinity . so listen.... fix this talent , ring of frost ,mirrors (mages in general) , Shroud of Concealment from rogues, remove pve gear from fun server and everything will be 100 times better for everyone .fix these and the gaming experience will be better which means more players will play the server and that will give benefits to the owners of the server and the actual players .dont forget you will fukin give money prize to arena "winners" who play with these bugs . jesus . i dont care if im out of topic . i had to post this here for some reason . ok,thankyou,bye,haveagooddaysir. seriously pandawow fix your game because someone is catching up (m o l t e n) and it will be too late when everyone will be gone for that . be more proffesional ffs .im out peace I am sure that russian players will never go to play there. Pandawow will always be so populated. Link to comment
Nemifest Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 yo invo-crapy-cation is bugged to infinity . so listen.... fix this talent , ring of frost ,mirrors (mages in general) , Shroud of Concealment from rogues, remove pve gear from fun server and everything will be 100 times better for everyone .fix these and the gaming experience will be better which means more players will play the server and that will give benefits to the owners of the server and the actual players .dont forget you will fukin give money prize to arena "winners" who play with these bugs . jesus . i dont care if im out of topic . i had to post this here for some reason . ok,thankyou,bye,haveagooddaysir. seriously pandawow fix your game because someone is catching up (m o l t e n) and it will be too late when everyone will be gone for that . be more proffesional ffs .im out peace Big daddy is in everyone! BIG DADDY IS IN! Oh wait, he's out. nvm. Link to comment
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