My opinion on PandaWoW's punishment system. - Zhalifa

[JohnnyPipes]

I personally despise the punishment system of PandaWoW.

 

Giving people the opportunity to pay for their unbans is literally the worst idea ever. Sure you have to make money somehow but you earn enough money despite all the raids being bugged and people having to buy all the transmog off the site to customize their characters.

 

Everyone who gets caught cheating / abusing / hacking in arena or PvP overall should have their character deleted. Yes deleted. If you're mentally retarded enough to be an asshole and abuse AND get CAUGHT you should lose everything you have.

The percentage of abusers would drop drastically, people who would get banned would either pay 770 bonuses to either buy a new character or just start a new one which would make the BG que pops faster and arena ques faster due to people having to gear up their characters again. And of course it would help you (PandaWoW) earn even more money, if you think about it, if someone gets banned for 30 days, he unbans for 450 bonuses. But if you delete his character instead, he will either pay 770 (320 bonuses profit) or he will gear a new one and maybe donate again for all the transmogs he used to have. Even if he doesn't he boosts the PandaWoW economy by queing BGs and arenas to get his gear back.

 

I know this is a very harsh system and a lot of people might not be okay with it but still, I think it would help the major problem of this server, which is abuse. I personally quit the server and barely play anymore just because of the fact there's so many abusers running around unpunished. It ruins the whole experience. But if this system is taken into consideration I might just come back and play again, but as it is right now I really can't imagine myself playing the server seriously again.

 

By that system I don't mean that this will be the only option to punish people, hell no, you should still keep mutes, 3 day bans, 30 day bans etc, but in addition you should implement the 'delete character' system which I presented to you which should only be used if someone is heavily abusing to their advantage.

 

Please take this into consideration.

(And yes. This post has been inspired by Sadmana's case.)

 

- Zhalifa

Edited March 24, 2016 by JohnnyPipes

[Machmollox]

Oh nice post thanks for it, you said everything.

I think, after 5 days without any try to ban appeal, it should be perma Banned, and 3k bonuses to remove it, no1 gonna pay, and if pay, he is retard.

[fenrir]

Institute some kind of system that allows admins to ban cheaters, abusers, and other toxic players in waves and it could work. Especially if these waves fail to give a lot of these players respites from being banned even after spending bonuses to get themselves unbanned.

[Repitchx]

they wont remove the unban option, they make so much money off of it, good luck with that.

[Vegari]

I doubt they will change something, but anyways you got the point : )

[Garodar]

It is all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$! To them, you're nothing but just another sheep and to them this is just another dumb suggestion that wont happen, because... when did they ever listen to any suggestions??

[Jegerm]

We have see many times GM banning "hackers" or "abusers" unfairly what I mean?Well if you got really high ms like 5k for example the anti-cheat system of pandawow shows in GM's screen that you're hacking so they ban them...imagine what is going to happen if all this ppl who get banned unfairly got their chars deleted but yea I agree 100% that they got to remove option "pay to unban your char from website"

[Jonte]

We have see many times GM banning "hackers" or "abusers" unfairly what I mean?Well if you got really high ms like 5k for example the anti-cheat system of pandawow shows in GM's screen that you're hacking so they ban them...imagine what is going to happen if all this ppl who get banned unfairly got their chars deleted but yea I agree 100% that they got to remove option "pay to unban your char from website"

 

The GMs can check if you were lagging or not, they did so with Chainzrow when he said he lagged and wasn't hacking.

[kestonz]

well, they found an opportunity to make an extra $$$ and they took it, even though its gonna do their server no good. its really showing the money>players here.

[Jonte]

well, they found an opportunity to make an extra $$$ and they took it, even though its gonna do their server no good. its really showing the money>players here.

 

I'm not sure if it's the case, but they might need the money to keep the servers up, so if you wanna play here, it has to be money>players.

[kestonz]

I'm not sure if it's the case, but they might need the money to keep the servers up, so if you wanna play here, it has to be money>players.

 

they have many other active services to gain money with though, mounts, race changes fac changes, tmogs etc. i really dont see having people pay to get unbanned for something like cheating is a good idea at all

[Jonte]

they have many other active services to gain money with though, mounts, race changes fac changes, tmogs etc. i really dont see having people pay to get unbanned for something like cheating is a good idea at all

 

Yeah I agree that it's not the best possible option.

[Frostshotz]

Server's had this system since launch, don't think they'll change it, i'd love to though.

[Jegerm]

The GMs can check if you were lagging or not, they did so with Chainzrow when he said he lagged and wasn't hacking.

 

but there're auto bans too right?So if someone is really lagging and anti-cheat system bans him the system wont be able to check if this player is lagging right?or there is no such thing please let me know :)

[Weegee]

Deleting someones character because of Hacking / Abusing / Cheating is just dumb idea imo.

 

Pandawow should ban the players account PERMANENTLY, and disable the unban option in the shop, because that's how it works on retail.

 

*Sodapopping got banned for Botting in Bg's and his account got banned / suspended PERMANENTLY. (And there's no un-ban option on retail)*

 

But you may wonder why is the idea of deleting their characters dumb idea to me?

 

Its what jegermaister said, if someone get's banned by an accident without any proof he should be un-banned(If there's no valid proof such as video proof from GM who banned him)

 

There are some cases about the "Lag" Where it looks like player is Teleport hacking / Fly hacking but the server staff should be Careful with cases such as those.

[Repitchx]

Deleting someones character because of Hacking / Abusing / Cheating is just dumb idea imo.

 

Pandawow should ban the players account PERMANENTLY, and disable the unban option in the shop, because that's how it works on retail.

 

*Sodapopping got banned for Botting in Bg's and his account got banned / suspended PERMANENTLY. (And there's no un-ban option on retail)*

 

But you may wonder why is the idea of deleting their characters dumb idea to me?

 

Its what jegermaister said, if someone get's banned by an accident without any proof he should be un-banned(If there's no valid proof such as video proof from GM who banned him)

 

There are some cases about the "Lag" Where it looks like player is Teleport hacking / Fly hacking but the server staff should be Careful with cases such as those.

 

Actually you get banned for 6 months for botting. Before WoD is was probably perm cause they had subs, they released they dropped below 5 mill subs in WoD, so they gave them only a suspension.

[faina]

dont forget about disabling any bonus actions on a banned acc

[Jonte]

Actually you get banned for 6 months for botting. Before WoD is was probably perm cause they had subs, they released they dropped below 5 mill subs in WoD, so they gave them only a suspension.

 

Unlucky players who got banned before WoD then, because Sodapoppin tried to get his account back during WoD and had no luck.

[Firestarter]

Just ban them for some days / weeks / months and after 2-3 bans its perm ... thats how easy it is lol ...

 

and ofc disable the unban function

[Nemifest]

We have see many times GM banning "hackers" or "abusers" unfairly what I mean?Well if you got really high ms like 5k for example the anti-cheat system of pandawow shows in GM's screen that you're hacking so they ban them...imagine what is going to happen if all this ppl who get banned unfairly got their chars deleted but yea I agree 100% that they got to remove option "pay to unban your char from website"

 

This really RARELY happens. Because the MS doesn't affect the fly or anything like that because you're disconnected the whole time you see everything frozen, which means in the "online world" you're frozen to them. Till your connection is good to play.

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Pandawow administration will maybe take your suggestion in thoughts, which is very doubtful. I'm not gonna give any suggestions in. Lets see if you get enough attention.

[Autschbatsch]

The whole policy around banning on here seems irrational to me tbh. I could flame the shit out of kids on retail for 10years and did not even get a 2h suspension 4Head. But i agree on punishing hackers so that it really hurts them. Like increasing the unbann cost depending on the valiation. Categorize it Wintrading/Hacking/scripting/DDosing etc. Could increase bann duration to 3motns and even if a dmg scripter unbanns he has a min bann of 1month to sit. I'd also like to see rating resets from hackers if that's not already a thing.