meganz Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) http://i.imgur.com/hAfUhPy.jpg Hello everyone! Last time people very often ask me questions about arena, setups and about the Paladin in general. As a result I’ve decided to write a guide where all the main ideas and features that I would like to share with you will be collected. Before reading this, I’d like you to get acquainted with the following points that explain my attitude. This guide is only an embodiment of my vision of the game, you can find some mistakes/defects here.You also may disagree with something, the aim of this guide isn’t to prove someone my correctness.I’m just trying to share my experience with people who are interested in it. This guide can be useful for both experienced players and people who play paladin for the first time. I do not want to take part in discussions of personal things and quarrels. I ask you not to turn this into a dump. I would be glad to answer all your questions about the guide and I’m ready to take into consideration your recommendations and corrections. Some information about my performance:I play retribution paladin for nearly six years (since Cata). My experience: 2.5+ AT, 2.5+ s16/s17, 3k pandawow.. I have separated my guide on some sections in order to make it easier for you to coordinate: 1.Races. 2.Talents. 3.Glyphs. 4.Stat priority, sockets, enchants, reforge, professions. 5.Macroes, addons, interface. 6.Tricks. 7.Pvp and arena setups. [spoiler=1. Races:] I think that everything is clear here. -Alliance. http://i.imgur.com/LVhm8.jpg-Human. Dwarf is also good, but in my point of view their passive ability worse than human ones. -Horde http://i.imgur.com/e1f9d.jpg-Blood Elf I think that blood elf is better for retribution paladin than tauren. I consider http://db.pandawow.me?spell=28730 to be more useful than http://db.pandawow.me?spell=20549 [spoiler=2. Talents:] http://i.imgur.com/7zDLb0X.png This is the most optimal talent build. Green – talents that can be changed (depends on your teammate). I will analyse those talents which can be used while playing arena. Talents that I have not analysed are not actual for retribution paladin or they are for other specs. 1st tier: http://db.pandawow.me?spell=87172 Long Arm of the law is the best сhoice in this tier. It gives us 3 second sprint with 2 second cooldown (Press judgement get 3 sec sprint with 2 sec cooldown). It really helps you to kite enemies in pvp and arena. 2nd tier: http://db.pandawow.me?spell=105593 It replaces http://db.pandawow.me?spell=853 reduces cooldown (30 sec). This talent is probably the best for retri among those that were added in MoP. Cd 30 sec really sounds great. You can make excellent chain controls while playing with hunter or mage. It was very hard to play without this talent in Cata. All in all, it’s the best talent for 3s and it should be taken. 3rd tier: http://db.pandawow.me?spell=85804 One of the best talents for retri pala. You gain both stacks and sprint when using judgement so you are able to heal yourself and your teammates. 4th tier: http://db.pandawow.me?spell=114039 This talent should be taken if you face affliction warlock + any heal. This talent is not actual while playing versus moonkin + afli warlock. All in all, this talent is good only versus affliction warlocks. http://db.pandawow.me?spell=105622 The best talent for retri pala. It gives you 2 BoPs/freedoms/sacrifaces. I was very glad to play with such a talent when I was starting to play MoP. 5th tier: http://db.pandawow.me?spell=105809 Everything is clear here. It’s the best talent in this tier. 6th tier: http://db.pandawow.me?spell=114157 One of the powerful abilities of retri pala. It can both heal and damage. Fear and repentance. They can be taken while playing with any heal, but it’s better to think up something and to play with 30 sec HoJ. For example: Monk takes AoE stun and gives it to the target while you give your HoJ into focus, then monk chains it with 6 sec stupefaction. This combination is enough to make your enemies use some def cooldowns or it can lead to enemy’s death. [spoiler=3. Glyphs:] This is common glyphs build. http://i.imgur.com/GKWHHJJ.png http://db.pandawow.me?item=104050-Glyph of divine shield. Must be taken. Very useful glyph. You can save stacks of flash light or holy power and heal your teammate, not yourself. http://db.pandawow.me?spell=54926-Glyph of Templar’s verdict. Should be taken, as it constantly gives you -10% of incoming damage. These are two glyphs that you shouldn’t change. Glyph of burden of guilt, glyph of divine protection, glyph of double jeopardy are glyphs that you should change in different situations (depends on your arena enemies). http://db.pandawow.me?item=41102 http://db.pandawow.me?item=41096 http://db.pandawow.me?spell=54922 Minor glyphs: There are no so profitable glyphs except glyph of the righteous retreat-http://db.pandawow.me?item=80585 :D [spoiler=4. Stat priority, sockets, enchants, reforge, professions:] A constant question: what is better for retri pala? Crit, mastery or haste? The right priority: Strength->Haste->Crit -> Mastery Orange socket–http://db.pandawow.me?item=76661 Purple socket –http://db.pandawow.me?item=89674 Red socket–http://db.pandawow.me?item=76696 Meta socket-http://db.pandawow.me?item=76886 I don’t use pvp socket (I tested it and the damage was less than if I used meta socket). Why I took-http://db.pandawow.me?item=76661 instead of-http://db.pandawow.me?item=76669 if we know that haste is better. I tested it and got the following: you won’t get any profit if you use-http://db.pandawow.me?item=76669, you don’t even get reduced cooldowns. Even if you use-http://db.pandawow.me?item=76699,то you won’t get any profit. I consider this socket build to be the best. P.S. If you will turn everything in haste (items, sockets e.t.c.) you will lose mastery and won’t get any profit. Enchants. http://db.pandawow.me?item=83006 http://db.pandawow.me/?spell=125486 http://db.pandawow.me/?item=74708 http://db.pandawow.me/?item=74704 http://db.pandawow.me?item=74721/vi http://db.pandawow.me/?item=90046 http://db.pandawow.me/?item=83765 http://db.pandawow.me/?item=84556 http://db.pandawow.me?item=98163 [spoiler=reforge] http://i.imgur.com/5ejx6GD.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xIOnTIQ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hMxVsB1.jpg http://i.imgur.com/gchWLYl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/W9XdJZ5.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xlpMGaU.jpg http://i.imgur.com/KbMA5AT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/GiwtfgK.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hREBYm8.jpg http://i.imgur.com/RUU8Y8L.jpg http://i.imgur.com/n0Gz2AJ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/pYpq06p.jpg http://i.imgur.com/qBf4l4B.jpg Professions: I use tailoring and blacksmithing. Tailoring gives me 4000 attack power. Blacksmithing gives me two sockets. I guess everything is clear here. [spoiler=5. Macroes, addons, interface:] https://pp.userapi.com/c849220/v849220064/a9bc0/awKBIKoCAFY.jpg - new http://imgur.com/a/G6mgY- interface https://yadi.sk/d/CZqYodeDaVsD4w- addons Macroes: /cast [target=name] Redemption /cast [target=name] Hand of Freedom /cast [target=name] Hand of Protection /cast [target=name] Hand of Sacrifice /cast [target=name] Cleanse /cast [target=name] Word of Glory /cast [target=name] Flash of Light /cast [target=name] Execution Sentence kick/hoj/fear #showtooltip Rebuke /cast [nomodifier] Rebuke /cast [target=arena1,modifier:shift] Rebuke /cast [target=arena2,modifier:ctrl] Rebuke /cast [target=arena3,modifier:alt] Rebuke #showtooltip Fist of Justice /cast [nomodifier] Fist of Justice /cast [target=arena1,modifier:shift] Fist of Justice /cast [target=arena2,modifier:ctrl] Fist of Justice /cast [target=arena3,modifier:alt] Fist of Justice #showtooltip Turn Evil /targetexact Summon Gargoyle /cast Turn Evil /targetlasttarget Cs/judgment/tv/exo #showtooltip Judgment /cast Judgment /startattack #showtooltip Templar's Verdict /cast Templar's Verdict /startattack #showtooltip Crusader Strike /cast Crusader Strike /startattack #showtooltip /cast [modifier:shift,target=focus] Exorcism; [modifier:shift,target=focus] Exorcism; Exorcism #showtooltip /cast [modifier:shift,target=focus] Judgment; [modifier:shift,target=focus] Judgment; Judgment bubble/BoP #showtooltip Hand of Protection /cast [nomod] Hand of Protection /cancelaura [modifier:shift] Hand of Protection #showtooltip Divine Shield /cast [nomod] Divine Shield /cancelaura [modifier:shift] Divine Shield Marks /script SetRaidTarget ("player",8); /script SetRaidTarget ("party1",6); /script SetRaidTarget ("party2",2); /focus [@arena1/2/3] [spoiler=6. Tricks:] 1) Using sacrifice you can prevent a lot of control abilities. In 2s I often use this when it’s necessary: Using sacriface we can not only save our teammates (remove control or just give them -30%) but also to avoid such control as sheep, supt, hex, blind, sleep, fear, scatter (not on pandawow), roar, repentance. In most of cases it can lead to win. You shouldn’t use it without any purposes. 2) We have dispel which removes dk’s dots (if he doesn’t take glyph) and poisons. It’s very convienent to dispel paralytic and avoid stun that doesn’t diminish with kidney/cheap shot. Moreover dispel removes shadow priests’s plague and hunter’s sleep. 3) Master aura. It can be used while you are in solar or frostjaw + we get -20% incoming magic damage. 4) BoP. It removes necrotic, monk’s karma, stuns and fears. You can also remove dk’s execute by using BoP. P.S. It’s so sad that it’s impossible to use BoP while you are in the warrior’s fear. 5) Freedom is very essential in arena. When mage is casting frostjaw on you or on your teammate, you can use freedom and it will allow you to move (this way you can prevent control). 6) Fear. You can fear dk’s pets, warlock’s pets and dk when he uses lichborne. 7) You can destroy grounds and mass reflects by using judgement or exorcism. Very often my teammate asks me to destroy grounding totem or massreflect and it really helps to win an arena match. 8) If you don’t want you sacrifice/BoP/freedom to be dispelled or purged you can spam buffs. [spoiler=7. Pvp and Arena setups:] Most actual setups for retri in 2s are Ret/Hunt and Ret/Mage. If you want to play with heal it would be a good idea to play with druid or shaman. Most actual setups for retri in 3s are PHS/P/RLS v.2 aka RetLS I think that it would be more profitable to record some videos in 2s, 3s than writing much text here. [spoiler=3season:] In PvP I have the idea to play versus the best players. Warrior – Mark/Serenetiz Paladin – Holyonee [spoiler=ret.vs mm hunt:] With Hunt simple Use all cooldowns and kill him Rogue – Repitchx/Claimitko SP – Спиритх Shaman – Dionysys [spoiler=ret.vs frost mage:] Fire mage – Baz Warlock – Funkabizsax/Sharhy/Properlol Monk – Preepx Druid – Никитасовун DK – Fenemore This guide will be updated in future. Thanks for your attention, good luck :) Follow me https://www.twitch.tv/djmeganz Edited April 21, 2020 by meganz 14
Game Masters Jegerm Posted April 27, 2016 Game Masters Posted April 27, 2016 Nice guide Mega you put a lot effort in it +1
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meganz Posted April 27, 2016 Author Posted April 27, 2016 my favorite vodka cyka blyat guide vodka 10/10 +1 nice guide. really liked it :) thx =D - - - Добавлено - - - Nice guide Mega you put a lot effort in it +1 yes thx )))
Deielrion Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 Even if you don't play pala, these macros are pretty useful to use as a base.
Veynnzy Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 my favorite vodka cyka blyat guide vodka 10/10 +1 nice guide. really liked it :) top comment 1
Noneedholy Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) Im mentioned, am i fame now ? Btw best war is blaston 4Head Its fine just poke me if you wanna do some 2s games. Ima get a random heal and que abit into you, need also videos for my guide. Just write it in the forums because im barely on Pandawow atm. Edited April 28, 2016 by Noneedholy
Machmollox Posted May 6, 2016 Posted May 6, 2016 PLAY BUG CLASS DONT NEED GUIDE FOR GLADIATORRR :beer: you play dk and warr. and you play it badly
Takaa. 3 Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 you play dk and warr. and you play it badly and u play lock and u cant reach 2300 :good:
meganz Posted May 8, 2016 Author Posted May 8, 2016 PLAY BUG CLASS DONT NEED GUIDE FOR GLADIATORRR :beer: ok)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
jackredskull Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 It's funny that you made a guide about how to play ret to help people get rating while you wintraded for your rating Kappa.
Deielrion Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 He didn't wintrader derp. He got registered as a wintrader last season but that was a false verdict (in my opinion). You're only calling him a wintrader cause you've never played against him lol
Aura Posted July 24, 2016 Posted July 24, 2016 I have not touched Ret paladins since 4.3.4 so I may try them again on here with your guide. Thanks :)
Autschbatsch Posted September 10, 2016 Posted September 10, 2016 (edited) I just set up my ret then I looked over this: constant question: what is better for retri pala? Crit, mastery or haste? The right priority: Strength->Haste->Crit -> Mastery Inscribed Vermilion Onyx i also wanted to know if you switch between seals in arena or is it not worth it global-wise... :/ Edited September 10, 2016 by Autschbatsch
viktor971 Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 Nice guide :) It really helps me :D +1 10/10 :)
sybreed Posted January 16, 2017 Posted January 16, 2017 Hello,can you please tell me what talents and glyphs your hunter was running with while you were playing and was he optimising mastery or haste gear,thx in advance and nice guide))
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