badalhocaa Posted January 27, 2017 Posted January 27, 2017 Hello everyone, on this Beautiful Friday (in my country), I arrived from work and tried to connect to my account and with my attempts I realized that something was wrong. So I went to the server site and saw that my account was banned, because of "BUG ABUSER", I think about 2 days ago I took advantage of the hunter bug because I was tired of dying. That I remember the laws of the court, it is not wrong to abuse something to defend itself, I was exposed to the need to use, I did not use because I wanted to. I am a player for almost 2 years and I have 3 accounts, there were more than 300 dollars spent here, this for me that I am Brazilian is a lot because the currency is a bit high. I do not think it fair that I am a donor being banned for defending myself from people who were killing me all the time. I ask you to review the situation. 1
badalhocaa Posted January 27, 2017 Author Posted January 27, 2017 Temporary, a month, that's a long time. It's the same thing if you're walking down the street and a stranger throws you a stone, you pick up the same stone and throw it again, it's the same situation.
Noneedholy Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 Then stop crying ... u abused clearly so unban urself or deal with the 1 month ... rofl
badalhocaa Posted January 28, 2017 Author Posted January 28, 2017 Then stop crying ... u abused clearly so unban urself or deal with the 1 month ... rofl Friend, read about the laws of the courts, and what conditions exist within them, instead of sitting all day on the computer doing nothing. Even because this is everyone's right in case of need.
Weegee Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 You abused a bug, you broke the server rules and you got banned. It doesn't matter if you are getting attacked by others, there's something called "World PvP" And you have no rights to "Abuse" a bug in order to make your self invulnerable to them. If you don't want to be attacked, move away from them & disable PvP. If you think that this was an "Unjust" ban, then feel free to make a appeal here http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=78845 And in the future, read the server rules. http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=79032&langid=1
badalhocaa Posted January 28, 2017 Author Posted January 28, 2017 You abused a bug, you broke the server rules and you got banned. It doesn't matter if you are getting attacked by others, there's something called "World PvP" And you have no rights to "Abuse" a bug in order to make your self invulnerable to them. If you don't want to be attacked, move away from them & disable PvP. If you think that this was an "Unjust" ban, then feel free to make a appeal here http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=78845 And in the future, read the server rules. http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=79032&langid=1 My dear friend, I made it very clear at the beginning that I made use of the bug, I think you did not read well, it was made a video of a player that filmed me using, but this player forged the information because the same was in a group with 2 HUNTERS killing overall. "And you have no right to" Abuse "a bug to make your self invulnerable to them." But I can be vulnerable to those who become invincible and make me a victim right? "If you do not want to be attacked, move away from them and disable PvP" There is only one faction? Even it seems that the one who was using it was only for arenas and not for the main cities. "And in the future, read the rules of the server" I do not need to read the rules, to make sense my dear friend, for every rule There is an exception, since every rule has errors or an aversion. If you reply, please reply with some valid argument please!
fenris Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) My dear friend, I made it very clear at the beginning that I made use of the bug, I think you did not read well, it was made a video of a player that filmed me using, but this player forged the information because the same was in a group with 2 HUNTERS killing overall. "And you have no right to" Abuse "a bug to make your self invulnerable to them." But I can be vulnerable to those who become invincible and make me a victim right? "If you do not want to be attacked, move away from them and disable PvP" There is only one faction? Even it seems that the one who was using it was only for arenas and not for the main cities. "And in the future, read the rules of the server" I do not need to read the rules, to make sense my dear friend, for every rule There is an exception, since every rule has errors or an aversion. If you reply, please reply with some valid argument please! You're on a server where there are NO exceptions, dude. There are no errors here either. The admins knew exactly what they were doing when they made the rules. If you know anything about any sort of legal system, the burden of proof is ALWAYS on the accuser. They made a video of you abusing that you assert is forged. Yet, it's apparent you never bothered to do some recording yourself so you could set the story straight. You can't prove they forged the video used to ban you. You had options other than bug abuse. You could have stayed dead after the first time they killed you and after a while they would have left once it became apparent you weren't going to allow yourself to be farmed like that. You won't necessarily be banned for remaining dead until your assailants leave. PS: Before you say my method doesn't actually work, it does work. I haven't been ganked in forever since I started remaining dead or rezzing at the spirit healer if it was far enough from my corpse to avoid detection by my attackers. Best ten minutes well spent if it meant easily getting away from the gankers. Edited January 28, 2017 by fenris
badalhocaa Posted January 29, 2017 Author Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) You're on a server where there are NO exceptions, dude. There are no errors here either. The admins knew exactly what they were doing when they made the rules. If you know anything about any sort of legal system, the burden of proof is ALWAYS on the accuser. They made a video of you abusing that you assert is forged. Yet, it's apparent you never bothered to do some recording yourself so you could set the story straight. You can't prove they forged the video used to ban you. You had options other than bug abuse. You could have stayed dead after the first time they killed you and after a while they would have left once it became apparent you weren't going to allow yourself to be farmed like that. You won't necessarily be banned for remaining dead until your assailants leave. PS: Before you say my method doesn't actually work, it does work. I haven't been ganked in forever since I started remaining dead or rezzing at the spirit healer if it was far enough from my corpse to avoid detection by my attackers. Best ten minutes well spent if it meant easily getting away from the gankers. Would you rather be hidden like a coward for 10 minutes? Or forever. Dude, if you cower in a game, you'll end up being another victim of society if you can not fight something wrong using the same spoon in a game I do not even want to imagine if it was something in real life. My friend, in any case there are exceptions, for everything to rules, and laws. Soldier going to war for fear of dying, he's a coward. bro, I want the ZEOX to read the situation, because it is the most rational of this place, I believe the only able to understand. But according to your text, you should come and live in Brazil, you would accept the laws of my country easily. The laws of my country concise in: -> If I am attacked and counterattacked I am arrested, and the one who made the first attack does not. -> If I get beat up and get up and beat, I'm stuck. Friend I understand that if taking advantage of a bug is something wrong, this is more against a rule breach of my common sense, not the server. But for everything there has to be an expertise, and if possible someone who understands of aversions. If you answer, please respond with something good, do not waste my time. Edited January 29, 2017 by badalhocaa
Repitchx Posted January 29, 2017 Posted January 29, 2017 i'm sorry, but what is this bullshit? if you abuse something, regardless of what it is, you should be banned, lol. abuse is abuse. don't try to justify yourself....
Noneedholy Posted January 29, 2017 Posted January 29, 2017 This guy is too much into that game i think LMFAO if u getting ganked just afk for 5 min or rez by the gy... Holy shit you abused and now u got a ban, gtfo with ur taco logic
badalhocaa Posted January 29, 2017 Author Posted January 29, 2017 This guy is too much into that game i think LMFAO if u getting ganked just afk for 5 min or rez by the gy... Holy shit you abused and now u got a ban, gtfo with ur taco logic Decided to respond after a year, and spoke the same shit as the previous and the previous. - - - Updated - - - i'm sorry, but what is this bullshit? if you abuse something, regardless of what it is, you should be banned, lol. abuse is abuse. don't try to justify yourself.... Dude you said the same shit that the previous ones spoke, did you bother to read everything that is written in the post? If it's to talk bullshit or something with no concept, be quiet it looks more beautiful to you
Noneedholy Posted January 29, 2017 Posted January 29, 2017 bullshit with no concept That pretty much sums up your report
tiggar47 Posted January 29, 2017 Posted January 29, 2017 Then stop crying ... u abused clearly so unban urself or deal with the 1 month ... rofl You should be perma banned and banned from life. Also show balls and don't talk worm.
badalhocaa Posted January 29, 2017 Author Posted January 29, 2017 You should be perma banned and banned from life. Also show balls and don't talk worm. Write without slang and correctly, it is difficult to understand the nonsense you speak without any link, using slang words and I can not answer.
Nemifest Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 Write without slang and correctly, it is difficult to understand the nonsense you speak without any link, using slang words and I can not answer. You expect to not get punished for abusing something, see it as you abused some familys' relative and you get caught, you said "I didn't read the rules" Rofl. A pujo is an exception, know that. If you are to abuse, do it privately, not publicly.
badalhocaa Posted January 30, 2017 Author Posted January 30, 2017 You expect to not get punished for abusing something, see it as you abused some familys' relative and you get caught, you said "I didn't read the rules" Rofl. A pujo is an exception, know that. If you are to abuse, do it privately, not publicly. When I enter the forum and I see your answer on my topic, even a sadness of having to answer your answers futile, becomes boring. Come on, use this mess that we all have inside our heads, because it can take you to many places. Returning to the subject that, every rule has its exception. It is a crime for you to attack someone. But if that person attacks you, and you defend yourself, you are not betraying a crime, but responding against it in favor of your well-being. This is an exception within a rule. In my case, I did not use it in bad faith, I just defended myself. You have no arguments to be on this topic man, be quiet, be more beautiful. You are only acting according to your selfishness, a clear feature in evidence of your personality.
fenris Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) When I enter the forum and I see your answer on my topic, even a sadness of having to answer your answers futile, becomes boring. Come on, use this mess that we all have inside our heads, because it can take you to many places. Returning to the subject that, every rule has its exception. It is a crime for you to attack someone. But if that person attacks you, and you defend yourself, you are not betraying a crime, but responding against it in favor of your well-being. This is an exception within a rule. In my case, I did not use it in bad faith, I just defended myself. You have no arguments to be on this topic man, be quiet, be more beautiful. You are only acting according to your selfishness, a clear feature in evidence of your personality. No, there's not an exception to every rule. And you try living in the United States, where every now and then you CAN be arrested for defending yourself. We have states where there are no stand your ground laws, which shield those defending themselves from prosecution even if they were armed to the teeth. You deserve your ban not to be lifted because clearly you're a self-righteous troll. If there were truly an exception allowed for bug abuse, why did you get banned?! The answer is because there is no exception permitted here! Don't try and apply real world standards to a virtual world. Real world laws and standards just do not apply in a world where it's entirely feasible to rez yourself from death! Edited January 30, 2017 by fenris
badalhocaa Posted January 30, 2017 Author Posted January 30, 2017 No, there's not an exception to every rule. And you try living in the United States, where every now and then you CAN be arrested for defending yourself. We have states where there are no stand your ground laws, which shield those defending themselves from prosecution even if they were armed to the teeth. You deserve your ban not to be lifted because clearly you're a self-righteous troll. If there were truly an exception allowed for bug abuse, why did you get banned?! The answer is because there is no exception permitted here! Don't try and apply real world standards to a virtual world. Real world laws and standards just do not apply in a world where it's entirely feasible to rez yourself from death! You do not even know the laws of your country and want to come and define whether there is an exception or not?
fenris Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) EException The act of excepting or excluding from a number designated or from a description; that which is excepted or separated from others in a general rule or description; a person, thing, or case specified as distinct or not included; an act of excepting, omitting from mention, or leaving out of consideration. Express exclusion of something from operation of contract or deed. An exception operates to take something out of a thing granted that would otherwise pass or be included. Objection to an order or ruling of a trial court. A formal objection to the action of the court, during the trial of a case, in refusing a request or overruling an objection; implying that the party excepting does not acquiesce in the decision of the court, but will seek to procure its reversal, and that he or she means to save the benefit of his or her request or objection in some future proceeding. Under rules practiced in the federal and most state courts, the need for claiming an exception to evidence or to a ruling to preserve appellate rights has been eliminated in favor of an objection. This is the legal definition of exception as defined in MY country. You don't have an exception in this case because you were banned outright. Exceptions are legally mandated in cases of trial by jury, and this server doesn't operate that way. You don't get the right here to plead self-defense when what you got banned for was bug abuse. Rule 2.2 of the In-Game rules tab says you're not allowed to give yourself an advantage, even if it's self-defense, because ultimately you benefit more than your attackers do. You gain an intangible benefit because you end up killing them and they can't stop it. It's basically the same way if they'd been doing it to you. If that's the case, you didn't bother reporting it, you didn't find a less bothersome means of getting away, and you paid the price for it. Edited January 31, 2017 by fenris
Vegartko Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 You do not even know the laws of your country and want to come and define whether there is an exception or not? you are completely retarded
badalhocaa Posted January 31, 2017 Author Posted January 31, 2017 EException The act of excepting or excluding from a number designated or from a description; that which is excepted or separated from others in a general rule or description; a person, thing, or case specified as distinct or not included; an act of excepting, omitting from mention, or leaving out of consideration. Express exclusion of something from operation of contract or deed. An exception operates to take something out of a thing granted that would otherwise pass or be included. Objection to an order or ruling of a trial court. A formal objection to the action of the court, during the trial of a case, in refusing a request or overruling an objection; implying that the party excepting does not acquiesce in the decision of the court, but will seek to procure its reversal, and that he or she means to save the benefit of his or her request or objection in some future proceeding. Under rules practiced in the federal and most state courts, the need for claiming an exception to evidence or to a ruling to preserve appellate rights has been eliminated in favor of an objection. This is the legal definition of exception as defined in MY country. You don't have an exception in this case because you were banned outright. Exceptions are legally mandated in cases of trial by jury, and this server doesn't operate that way. You don't get the right here to plead self-defense when what you got banned for was bug abuse. Rule 2.2 of the In-Game rules tab says you're not allowed to give yourself an advantage, even if it's self-defense, because ultimately you benefit more than your attackers do. You gain an intangible benefit because you end up killing them and they can't stop it. It's basically the same way if they'd been doing it to you. If that's the case, you didn't bother reporting it, you didn't find a less bothersome means of getting away, and you paid the price for it. Congratulations, you copied and pasted a law of the cuts, only forgot to by the reference of where you copied and pasted right? But he is still a retard who does not understand what is an exception or the general condition of a rule. - - - Updated - - - you are completely retarded I'm retarded right? You do not know how to interpret a text and define who has problems? But in view of the problem of attention you have, I will be supportive and I will explain. The reference I used is that the previous friend does not even know the laws of his country, how will he understand a virtual law?
fenris Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) THERE'S NO VIRTUAL LAW THAT GOVERNS PRIVATE SERVERS, YOU MORON! Every server's rules are dictated individually by that server's administration! You got banned by PandaWoW's administration, which means they don't share your views of the situation! There's no law that says they have to give you an exception for self defense on a GAME where everything freaking goes! They haven't made an exception for others, why the hell should they give you one?! Huh?! Since when did they have to pander to YOU?! You are even more ignorant than you called me because I at least provided information on what the hell I was talking about, even if I inadvertently forgot to provide the website, which is still more than you've done. Can some moderator please close this out before I go insane and start flinging every American swear word I know at this guy? He's even more triggering than tiggar. Edited January 31, 2017 by fenris
DragonBruu Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 Omfg i had a great laugh reading this. Please dude, use your head, of course there are either international or national laws that 'protect' you when you do something wrong to defend yourself, yet you can get prosecuted for committing a crime when defending yourself. If someone is inside your house stealing, and you shoot him from behind, 'you defended yourself' but you'll go to jail xd. Anyways, this makes no sense, since this is not brazil, or the states, this is a virtual game, where real world rules/laws don't apply, rules are rules, and this server says, if you abuse, either to defend yourself, not in purpose, or w/e you say, you get banned, deal with it or pay the unban, because you won't get unbanned by applying real world law in here. Cheers.
fenris Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) If you would have read before I got on my rant, I mentioned that. I know the difference between the two, and I used my country as an example of that difference. I'm very well aware as you are that real world laws/rules don't apply. Edited January 31, 2017 by fenris
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