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Stage One: The True Horde.

1. http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71865/garrosh-hellscream - http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71985/kokron-iron-star.

http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71985/kokron-iron-star - After becoming activated by the http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71984/siege-engineer the Iron Star will roll across the room, slamming into the opposite wall.

http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144653/iron-star-impact - Inflicts massive damage to any players or Kor'kron that are caught in its path, knocking them back.

http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144798/exploding-iron-star - The impact of the Iron Star causes it to explode, inflicting xx.xx Fire damage to nearby enemies. The damage inflicted decreases the farther away an enemy is from the explosion.

 

2. Problems:

 

1) After Update in June http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71985/kokron-iron-star is moving ~2 times slower than should be, which is a huge problem on Heroic Mode.

2) http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144798/exploding-iron-star doesn't work, when http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71985/kokron-iron-star explodes there is no Raid Wide AoE Damage.

3) Damage Radius of http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71985/kokron-iron-star is incorrect, fire doesn't damage players/adds at edges. Because of this mechanic can be abused - raid stacks in middle of the room (https://imgur.com/a/2BlBf).

4) http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144653/iron-star-impact doesn't Knockback http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71979/korkron-warbringer (I know it was disabled on purpose, problem was mainly about http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71983/farseer-wolf-rider flying in Textures, about http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71979/korkron-warbringer knockback can be added back since it was a bug that http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71983/farseer-wolf-rider was getting knocked back).

P.S. http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144653/iron-star-impact should only knockback http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71979/korkron-warbringer & players. NOT http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71983/farseer-wolf-rider.

 

 

 

3. How should it work:

 

1) http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71985/kokron-iron-star should move at Correct Speed - it was fine before this update.

2) When http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71985/kokron-iron-star explodes every raid member should suffer damage from http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144798/exploding-iron-star.

3) Damage + Knockback Radius of http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71985/kokron-iron-star should be correct.

4) http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144653/iron-star-impact should knockback only http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71979/korkron-warbringer and players.

 

 

4. x100.

5. 14/08/2017.

 

To view situation after fixes check last post from me in this thread.

Edited by Scorpionz
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You could add the damage part is not working when it reaches the other end of the room, better to keep all reports on 1 spell in 1 thread ^_^
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Tested 05/11/2017.

Fix Needs Review.

 

1) After Update in June Ko'kron Iron Star is moving ~2 times slower than should be, which is a huge problem on Heroic Mode.

Fixed.

 

2) http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144798/exploding-iron-star doesn't work, when Ko'kron Iron Star explodes there is no Raid Wide AoE Damage.

Fix Needs Review.

http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144798/exploding-iron-star deals damage now, but it deals 40K Damage no matter where you stand - next to explosion or very far away from it.

How it should work: The impact of the Iron Star causes it to explode, inflicting 2'000'000 (3'500'000 On Heroic Mode) Fire damage to nearby enemies. The damage inflicted decreases the farther away an enemy is from the explosion.

 

3) Damage Radius of http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144653/iron-star-impact is incorrect, fire doesn't damage players/adds at edges. Because of this mechanic can be abused - raid stacks in middle of the room (https://imgur.com/a/2BlBf).

Fix Needs Review.

Radius is too big now, you can see it in this picture (once I moved 1 step closer I got hit by 2M damage + knocked back) - https://imgur.com/a/mvUIE.

How it should work: This is how far you should be able to go https://imgur.com/a/qsax6, video proof 0:35

 

Fix Needs Review.

http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144653/iron-star-impact knocks http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71979/korkron-warbringers too far away (they always fly in Textures). In this picture (https://imgur.com/a/CdtPm) you can see how it looks like: If Adds are on 'X' http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144653/iron-star-impact will knock them to Y (which is too much + in textures).

Another problem is that Both iron Stars knock adds in this direction.

How it should work: Knockback effect from http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144653/iron-star-impact should be very small: 7:43

+ every Iron Star should knock adds to a different location (one to South and other one to North).

 

 

Note: If possible please check if http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144653/iron-star-impact damage done to Trash mobs is correct on every difficulty.

Edited by Scorpionz
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Tested 16/11/2017.

Fix Needs Review.

 

[spoiler=Ko'kron Iron Star Movement Speed:]

1) After Update in June Ko'kron Iron Star is moving ~2 times slower than should be, which is a huge problem on Heroic Mode.

Fixed.

 

 

[spoiler=Exploding Kor'kron Iron Star:]

Fix Needs Review.

 

http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144798/exploding-iron-star - The impact of the Iron Star causes it to explode, inflicting 2'000'000 (3'500'000 on Heroic Mode) Fire damage to nearby enemies. The damage inflicted decreases the farther away an enemy is from the explosion.

There is something wrong with this part, clearly you can see that damage that is inflicted on C is not normal and players can't really survive that on Heroic Mode without using hard deffensive cooldowns.

 

http://bildites.lv/images/j33yskun/89886/thumbnail.png

[b]Normal Mode:[/b]
[b]A[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]754413[/color] Fire.
[b]B[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]1112303[/color] Fire. 
[b]C[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]1357962[/color] Fire. 
[b]D[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]1582394[/color] Fire. 
[b]E[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]1824799[/color] Fire. 

[b]Heroic Mode:[/b]
[b]A[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]1393174[/color] Fire. 
[b]B[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]1946844[/color] Fire. 
[b]C[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]2389428[/color] Fire. 
[b]D[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]2872499[/color] Fire. 
[b]E[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]3371600[/color] Fire. 

 

 

[spoiler=Ko'kron Iron Star Damage Radius:]

3) Damage Radius of http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144653/iron-star-impact is incorrect, fire doesn't damage players/adds at edges. Because of this mechanic can be abused - raid stacks in middle of the room (https://imgur.com/a/2BlBf).

Fix Needs Review.

Radius is still too big, you can see it in this picture (once I moved 1 step closer I got hit by 2M damage + knocked back) - https://imgur.com/a/VTiJX.

How it should work: This is how far you should be able to go https://imgur.com/a/qsax6, video proof 0:35

 

 

[spoiler=Ko'kron Iron Star Impact (Pushback):]

Fix Needs Review.

http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144653/iron-star-impact knocks http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71979/korkron-warbringers too far away (they always fly in Textures). In this picture (https://imgur.com/a/CdtPm) you can see how it looks like: If Adds are on 'X' http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144653/iron-star-impact will knock them to Y (which is too much + in textures).

Another problem is that Both iron Stars knock adds in this direction.

How it should work: Knockback effect from http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144653/iron-star-impact should be very small: 7:43

+ every Iron Star should knock adds to a different location (one to South and other one to North).

 

 

[spoiler=Ko'kron Iron Star Impact (Damage):]

5)If possible please check if http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144653/iron-star-impact damage done to Trash mobs is correct on every difficulty.

Ko'kron Iron Star eats ~50% of adds HP on all difficulties.

Fixed.

 

 

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Tested 30/01/2018.

Fix Needs Review.

 

1)Ko'kron Iron Star Movement Speed. - Fixed.

2)Exploding Ko'kron Iron Star. - Fix Needs Review.

3)Ko'kron Iron Star Damage Radius. - Fix Needs Review.

4)Ko'kron Iron Star Impact (Pushback). - Fix Needs Review.

5)Ko'kron Iron Star Impact (Damage). - Fixed.

 

[spoiler=Exploding Ko'kron Iron Star:]

Fix Needs Review.

 

Problem: Incorrect damage done by http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144798/exploding-iron-star, pay attention to Middle of the Room (C).

http://bildites.lv/images/j33yskun/89886/thumbnail.png

[b]Normal Mode:[/b]
[b]A[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]143'040[/color] Fire.
[b]B[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]170'991[/color] Fire. 
[b]C[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]200'066[/color] Fire. 
[b]D[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]254'514[/color] Fire. 
[b]E[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]335'043[/color] Fire. 

[b]Heroic Mode:[/b]
[b]A[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]253'714[/color] Fire. 
[b]B[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]299'553[/color] Fire. 
[b]C[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]361'922[/color] Fire. 
[b]D[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]454'424[/color] Fire. 
[b]E[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]797'743[/color] Fire. 

 

How it should work:

http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144798/exploding-iron-star - The impact of the Iron Star causes it to explode, inflicting 2'000'000 (3'500'000 on Heroic Mode) Fire damage to nearby enemies. The damage inflicted decreases the farther away an enemy is from the explosion.

Clearly on E damage should be near maximum (2'000'000 (3'500'000 on Heroic Mode) Fire damage).

 

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But we will talk about Middle (C).

 

Watch: 1:30.

 

Raid is standing on C, this balance druid suffers ~448K (Max is 3'500'000) fire damage while under http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=51052/anti-magic-zone which reduces damage taken by 40%. [so ~21%]

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Watch: 1:30.

 

Priest is standing near B, while under http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=183425/devotion-aura he loses ~70% of his full HP.

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You can check other Heroic kills and see that while standing in Middle of the Room, raids use 'raid-wide' cooldowns and lose ~Half of HP on Heroic Mode.

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So roughly (Since we can't get the exact number):

http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144798/exploding-iron-star should inflict ~750'000-780'000 Fire Damage In middle of the room (C).

http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144798/exploding-iron-star should inflict ~420'000-450'000 Fire Damage In middle of the room (C).

 

 

[spoiler=Ko'kron Iron Star Damage Radius:]

3) Damage Radius of http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144653/iron-star-impact is incorrect, fire doesn't damage players/adds at edges. Because of this mechanic can be abused - raid stacks in middle of the room (https://imgur.com/a/2BlBf).

Fix Needs Review.

 

Problem: Iron Star's Damage/Knockback Radius is too small again.

http://bildites.lv/images/4tve8asp/101043/thumbnail.jpg

 

A - Size of Iron Star's Damage/Knockback Radius at the moment. https://imgur.com/a/bSQBl / https://imgur.com/a/WZ3wt.

B - Size of Iron Star's Damage/Knockback Correct Radius.

 

How it should work: Iron Star's Damage/Knockback Radius should be correct:

 

 

[spoiler=Ko'kron Iron Star Impact (Pushback):]

Fix Needs Review.

4.1)Knockback effect (how far adds/players get pushed away). - Fixed.

4.2)Direction which way each Iron Star pushes adds/players. - Fix Needs Review.

 

http://bildites.lv/images/33gx3xvy/91043/thumbnail.jpg

 

Problem:

http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144653/iron-star-impact:

Ko'kron Iron Star A: Pushes http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71979/korkron-warbringers/Players in S Direction.

Ko'kron Iron Star B: Pushes http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71979/korkron-warbringers/Players in S Direction.

 

How it should work:

http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144653/iron-star-impact:

Ko'kron Iron Star A: Should Push http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71979/korkron-warbringers/Players in N Direction.

Ko'kron Iron Star B: Should Push http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71979/korkron-warbringers/Players in S Direction.

 

 

Edited by Scorpionz
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Edit: Still doing tests on Live Server to update this report.

 

Tested 16/02/2018.

Fix Needs Review.

 

1)Ko'kron Iron Star Movement Speed. - Fixed.

2)Exploding Ko'kron Iron Star. - Fix Needs Review.

3)Ko'kron Iron Star Damage Radius. - Fix Needs Review.

4)Ko'kron Iron Star Impact (Pushback). - Fix Needs Review.

5)Ko'kron Iron Star Impact (Damage). - Fixed.

 

[spoiler=Exploding Ko'kron Iron Star:]

 

http://bildites.lv/images/f7xxveek/103844/thumbnail.jpg

[b]Normal Mode:[/b]
[b]A[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]398'549[/color] Fire.
[b]B[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]402'207[/color] Fire. 
[b]C[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]406'989[/color] Fire. 
[b]D[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]421'209[/color] Fire. 
[b]E[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]460'445[/color] Fire. 

[b]Heroic Mode:[/b]
[b]A[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]711'367[/color] Fire. 
[b]B[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]727'565[/color] Fire. 
[b]C[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]738'449[/color] Fire. 
[b]D[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]751'311[/color] Fire. 
[b]E[/b] - Ko'kron Iron Star Exploding Iron Star hit You [color="#FF0000"]805'110[/color] Fire. 

 

Problem: You can clearly see that on E damage inflicted to players standing there is not even close to maximum value - 2'000'000 (3'500'000 on Heroic) Fire Damage. Another thing is how this damage taken from explosion reduces the farther player is standing away from it (From E >>> A less than 100K difference).

 

How it should work: On E damage should be near maximum value - 2'000'000 (3'500'000 on Heroic) Fire Damage, the farther player is standing from explosion the less damage he takes. Damage on C should be around ~420'000-450'000 (~750'000-780'000 on Heroic).

 

Watch: 1:30.

Druid standing on C while inside http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=51052/anti-magic-zone.

 

 

[spoiler=Ko'kron Iron Star Damage Radius:]

3) Damage Radius of http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=144653/iron-star-impact is incorrect, fire doesn't damage players/adds at edges. Because of this mechanic can be abused - raid stacks in middle of the room (https://imgur.com/a/2BlBf).

Will add info about this later today or tomorrow.

 

 

[spoiler=Ko'kron Iron Star Impact (Knockback Effect):]

 

http://bildites.lv/images/33gx3xvy/91043/thumbnail.jpg

 

How it looks like now:

4.1) http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71985/kokron-iron-star(A): knockbacks http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71979/korkron-warbringers in S Direction, and Players in S Direction.

4.2) http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71985/kokron-iron-star(B): knockbacks http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71979/korkron-warbringers in S Direction, and Players in N Direction.

 

How it should work:

4.1) http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71985/kokron-iron-star(A): should knockback http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71979/korkron-warbringers in N Direction, and Players in S Direction.

4.2) http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71985/kokron-iron-star(B): should knockback http://www.db.pandawow.me?npc=71979/korkron-warbringers in S Direction, and Players in N Direction.

 

 

Edited by Scorpionz
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