krischyn Posted June 11, 2019 Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) 1 frost bomb 2 on arcane mage spec its does too low dmg - sth like 80k-112k (crit dmg without arcane power) on 550ilvl; im with 80% mastery and only that damage its rly low; with arcane power I can do max 150k/160k dmg (crit) 3 with this mastery I must do more dmg than 80-112k 4 all realms 5 12.06.19 6 5/10[ATTACH=CONFIG]136022[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]136023[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]136024[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]136025[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]136026[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]136027[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]136028[/ATTACH] on this screenshots you can see my test on shadow priest with 6% reduce dmg and without 6% reduce dmg, max dmg 166k with full burst; on this video you can see 137k crit dmg with full burst on priest who has 30% reduce dmg and 200k crit dmg on hunter full burst again. But this player on video are griev ilvl I think and I don't know his stats and build int mastery or haste + he does 50k crit dmg. here is same player /5:50/ you can see dk and frost bomb on him without arcane power 121k dmg :D ….. how I said the dmg its seem low but im not so sure. What do u think about this dmg? Is it real or its really low? Edited June 11, 2019 by krischyn give one more link to youtube (proof)
Tracker Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) Hello, Krischyn. And sorry for late reply. Something like this used to happen back when I played here. I beleive it is caused by the server not counting the mastery you have on your gear after you respec multiple times. This was solved by stripping off all your gear, then fixing your character from site, and finally going back and wear your gear again. Or the problem could be that you are bursting with low mana. I don't have the client installed, so I can't test it myself.. But I hope one of the methods mentioned above helps you. Edited July 17, 2019 by Tracker because I can
Vatfaker Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 Бомба ан бурстом в 550 шмоте взрывается 112к почти всегда, с 100% маной. Я бы создавал тему на аркан болт. Ибо до альтер тайма он бьет 190к а после на 240+. Не понимаю в чем разница если до альтера и после проки одинаковые но цифра разная.
Tracker Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) Here is something to work on: Frost Bomb formula is: 4600 + (344.68% spell power) to the main target. Assuming 54,000 Spell Power during burst: 4600 + (3.4468 x 54,000) = 190,727 Add x1.72 (Mastery modifier) = 328,050 Add x1.2 (Arcane Power modifier) = 393,660 Add x1.15 (level 90 talent modifier) = 452,710 Add x1.56 (PvP Power modifier) = 706,227 Add x2.03 (Crit modifier) = 1,433,642 Add x0.2 (PvP Resilience modifier) = 286,728 Add x0.70 (nerf to Frost Bomb against players) = 200,709 This is very close to the numbers I've been getting on my Mage back in the day. krischyn, Vatfaker, Can you upload another test that shows your spell power, pvp power and mastery during burst, and also the damage that your Frost Bomb did? Edited July 24, 2019 by Tracker
Tracker Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 Damage is fine, but its doesn't increase when hits 5+ targets, Working correctly. The damage doesn't change if you hit 1 target or +5 targets.
Tracker Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) https://web.archive.org/web/20140131043755/https://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=112948 I believe you are refering to the last sentence in the tooltip? "This spell is strongest when it can hit 5 or more targets" But you can see there is no change in formula.. Main target always take 4600 + (344.68% spell power), and all Secondary targets always take 2301 + (172.5% spell power). This is only blizzard giving players tips for maximum dps for talents in level 75 row. Living Bomb (http://db.pandawow.me?spell=44457/living-bomb): "This spell is strongest when applied to 1 or 2 targets" Nether Tempest (http://db.pandawow.me?spell=114923/nether-tempest): "This spell is strongest when applied to 3 or 4 targets" Damage doesn't increase.. Only a tip for which talent is better for 1-2 target, or 3-4 target, or +5 target dps Edited July 23, 2019 by Tracker
Vatfaker Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 https://c.radikal.ru/c00/1907/c3/267a78601c9c.png - скрин фуллов https://c.radikal.ru/c32/1907/48/2567176fcc42.png - скрин урона 1
Tracker Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 https://c.radikal.ru/c00/1907/c3/267a78601c9c.png - скрин фуллов https://c.radikal.ru/c32/1907/48/2567176fcc42.png - скрин урона 207k So damage is okey, no bug. Thanks for test.
Tracker Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 Also what about this comment from wowhead? https://web.archive.org/web/20140131043755/https://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=112948#comments "By glonglon (865 – 1·6) on 2013/07/02 (Patch 5.3.0) Frost bomb always grant brain freeze when it explodes. Also frost bomb take into account your spellpower when it explodes and not when you apply it like other dots." This means that if you apply frost bomb with full burst, but the bomb explodes after you lose procs, then you do less damage. Anyone to test? I wonder if this comment count as valid proof? Glonglon is a known arenajunkie user, too.
Vatfaker Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 Also frost bomb take into account your spellpower when it explodes and not when you apply it like other dots." This means that if you apply frost bomb with full burst, but the bomb explodes after you lose procs, then you do less damage. Checked. Right. 1
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