warlockenjoyer Posted March 29 Posted March 29 3 heal vs 0 heal, please make a script to control healer roles
warlockenjoyer Posted March 29 Author Posted March 29 (edited) another healer joined the bg, guess on which team the matchmaking has put him, yes in ours, so now 4 heals vs 0 heals, the server NEEDS a fix to this healers roles thing Edited March 29 by warlockenjoyer
oomegalayt Posted March 29 Posted March 29 @Neff @DeadMouse Вот видите, неоднократное уже предложение и жалоба на такой непонятный "баланс" в кавычках на БГ. Как можно скорее, пожалуйста, обратите на это внимание всерьёз. Может это пригодится: https://forum.pandawow.me/topic/244060-novyj-fun-realm-new-fun-realm/page/2/#findComment-1470667 1
Swoksaar Posted March 29 Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 6:14 PM, oomegalayt said: @Neff @DeadMouse Вот видите, неоднократное уже предложение и жалоба на такой непонятный "баланс" в кавычках на БГ. Как можно скорее, пожалуйста, обратите на это внимание всерьёз. Может это пригодится: https://forum.pandawow.me/topic/244060-novyj-fun-realm-new-fun-realm/page/2/#findComment-1470667 Expand Подтверждаю, самая разумная идея из всех предложенных во всех схожих темах про БГ (подписываюсь под каждым пунктом) Странно, что только остаётся внимания.... 1
warlockenjoyer Posted March 29 Author Posted March 29 2 healer roles per team max, block changing spec inside bg, dont allow premades to que bg with 2 healer roles, block specializations once a premade has que'd bg so they cant change keep allowing bg's to start with zero healers so this doesnt affect que time if there is empty spots for healer roles then split them accordingly for new healer players joining bg
Maximtawer Posted March 29 Posted March 29 On 3/29/2025 at 7:41 PM, warlockenjoyer said: 3 heal vs 1 Expand Uncle, I recommend taking screenshots at the very beginning of the BG, not after one side has wiped the other and half the group has left. Most of the time, the number of healers is either equal or differs by just one. The fact that they leave after the first fight and no replacements join is a completely different story.
oomegalayt Posted March 30 Posted March 30 On 3/29/2025 at 7:41 PM, warlockenjoyer said: 3 heal vs 1 Expand С такой настройкой подбора бг, потом не удивляйтесь почему онлайн падает, а у рентов прибавляется. У нас в основном бг играют, на мой взгляд его нужно корректировать. Раньше из-за большего онлайна такой кривой подбор был почти не заметным. В моём предложении по корректировки подбора всё учтено, например, никто регу по 100 лет не будет ждать, остаётся только это проверить если такое предложение реализуемо, или придумайте что-то получше.
Maximtawer Posted March 30 Posted March 30 (edited) On 3/30/2025 at 12:01 AM, oomegalayt said: С такой настройкой подбора бг, потом не удивляйтесь почему онлайн падает, а у рентов прибавляется. У нас в основном бг играют, на мой взгляд его нужно корректировать. Раньше из-за большего онлайна такой кривой подбор был почти не заметным. В моём предложении по корректировки подбора всё учтено, например, никто регу по 100 лет не будет ждать, остаётся только это проверить если такое предложение реализуемо, или придумайте что-то получше. Expand Так подбор то нормальный, когда бг играется фулл на фулл, количество хилов одинаковое, либо на 1 больше/меньше. Конечно, когда в онлайне мало людей, бг не полное играется, где-то может быть 2 хила (потому что они в группе сидят), а где-то 0, но 0 не потому что не закидывает хилов, а 0 потому что в целом хилов очень мало, а в позднее время их почти нет. В +- пиковый онлайн количество хилов на бг практически сбалансированное. Но вам же проще ныть, когда онлайна на сервере нет, бг играются не полными и у вас в команде не попадается хил. Создайте себе хилов и играйте, будет вам баланс. А онлайн не прибавляется, потому что активностей на серверах нет, арена мертвая, бг 50/50, очень редко собирается онлайн хотя бы на 2 полноценных бг. Из активностей осталось лишь пве, которое выдрачивают на сотке пару человек) Edited March 30 by Maximtawer
oomegalayt Posted March 30 Posted March 30 (edited) Почему падает онлайн и что с этим можно сделать от @Maximtawer картинки Edited March 30 by oomegalayt
Game Masters Jegerm Posted March 30 Game Masters Posted March 30 We are already aware of the situation. Developers are working right now on the match making new system and very soon it will be implemented on live realms. Please read my post here, I wrote some examples of how this new match making system will work and what are the plans to promote the activity on BGs as well.
warlockenjoyer Posted March 31 Author Posted March 31 On 3/29/2025 at 9:07 PM, Maximtawer said: Uncle, I recommend taking screenshots at the very beginning of the BG, not after one side has wiped the other and half the group has left. Most of the time, the number of healers is either equal or differs by just one. The fact that they leave after the first fight and no replacements join is a completely different story. Expand ? i take screenshots with stats so it clearly shows who are healers or who are dps, in that ss im showing the healing done chart, u can clearly see who are healers by the numbers
warlockenjoyer Posted March 31 Author Posted March 31 (edited) On 3/30/2025 at 3:55 PM, Maximtawer said: А онлайн не прибавляется, потому что активностей на серверах нет, арена мертвая Expand i think arenas are dead because 522ilvl instead of 550ilvl, many times arena players tried coming to pandawow and left because of that, arena players want to just make new char and play and make tournaments, they dont want to grind gear Edited March 31 by warlockenjoyer
Game Masters Jegerm Posted March 31 Game Masters Posted March 31 On 3/31/2025 at 7:55 AM, warlockenjoyer said: i think arenas are dead because 522ilvl instead of 550ilvl, many times arena players tried coming to pandawow and left because of that, arena players want to just make new char and play and make tournaments, they dont want to grind gear Expand We recently scaled 522 ilvl gear to 550 ilvl gear at wargames. The up coming PvP tournament which will be held in 2 weeks will take place at xfun realm and participants will play 3vs3 wargames. 1
warlockenjoyer Posted March 31 Author Posted March 31 (edited) 4 heals vs 4 heals is unplayable, permanent fight where nobody dies for 10min will we have a healers limitation implemented? like que wont pop for extra healers if both teams already have 2 healers? @Jegerm and the 2nd pic, half of the bg are healers, 5 per team rolf Edited March 31 by warlockenjoyer 1
Game Masters Jegerm Posted March 31 Game Masters Posted March 31 On 3/31/2025 at 7:05 PM, warlockenjoyer said: 4 heals vs 4 heals is unplayable, permanent fight where nobody dies for 10min will we have a healers limitation implemented? like que wont pop for extra healers if both teams already have 2 healers? @Jegerm Expand The maximum healers per group will be 3. Although, if there are no healers in queue the BG will begin without them or if they are more, the each team will not have more than 3. Also, there is a possibility that the BG will be played with 2 healers or 1 for each team in case there won't be other healers in queue or if all the opened BG spots were filled with DPS classes. In few words, the new match making system will try to offer equal amount of healers for both team. Of course, it won't be bulletproof because a healer who is already in BG, he might go afk or leave the BG, or even skip the BG queue because he will decide to do other activity, so the balance regarding healers will change. 1
warlockenjoyer Posted March 31 Author Posted March 31 On 3/31/2025 at 10:35 PM, Jegerm said: The maximum healers per group will be 3 Expand i would limit it to 2 max per team, is plenty, but i think the new changes are going to be good
warlockenjoyer Posted Tuesday at 11:52 AM Author Posted Tuesday at 11:52 AM (edited) @Jegerm btw, i really would block premades from queing if there is more than 1 player with healer role, make a message appear saying "u cant que 2 healers" and block specialization change during preparation zone as if it was arena, these other changes are very needed too Edited Tuesday at 11:53 AM by warlockenjoyer
Game Masters Jegerm Posted Friday at 10:25 AM Game Masters Posted Friday at 10:25 AM Some updates regarding the chages we promised few days ago. The following changes are already implemented in our live realms: 1. Healers per team (max 3 healers in 10vs10/15vs15 BGs) and priority to healers in queue (the match making system gives them priority so both teams can have the equal amount of healers) 2. Maximum players who can queue BG from premade group changed from 5 to 3. 3. Forbid to change specialization while being in BG queue & while being inside BG. Need launcher update (not implemented yet on live realms) 4. New BG currency. 5. PvP and PvE transmogrification NPCs at xfun will offer items with new BG currency+honor. We are also discussing about a new system which will reward the losing team depending on how hard the team fought. For example: 800 or more/1600 bases -- 50 new BG currency 1200 or more/1600 bases -- 80 new BG currency 1400 or more/1600 bases -- 100 new BG currency Same goes with flags BGs: 1 capped flag -- 50 new BG currency 2 capped flag -- 100 new BG currency Again, all those numbers are just examples. 1 1
warlockenjoyer Posted Friday at 11:32 AM Author Posted Friday at 11:32 AM (edited) On 4/4/2025 at 10:25 AM, Jegerm said: Some updates regarding the chages we promised few days ago. The following changes are already implemented in our live realms: 1. Healers per team (max 3 healers in 10vs10/15vs15 BGs Expand pls make it 2 heals max, 3 is too much, especially on a 10v10 map Edited Friday at 11:33 AM by warlockenjoyer
warlockenjoyer Posted Friday at 11:34 AM Author Posted Friday at 11:34 AM (edited) On 4/1/2025 at 11:52 AM, warlockenjoyer said: @Jegerm btw, i really would block premades from queing if there is more than 1 player with healer role, make a message appear saying "u cant que 2 healers" and block specialization change during preparation zone as if it was arena, these other changes are very needed too Expand @Jegermblock premades from queing if there is more than 1 healer role, thats the most important needed change, it will fix 99% of bg imbalances Edited Friday at 11:35 AM by warlockenjoyer
entaroloco Posted Friday at 01:09 PM Posted Friday at 01:09 PM On 4/4/2025 at 11:34 AM, warlockenjoyer said: @Jegermblock premades from queing if there is more than 1 healer role, thats the most important needed change, it will fix 99% of bg imbalances Expand почему ты скулишь на близлайк?
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