durham Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Link http://www.wowwiki.com/Expertise Bug Type expertise not working 100%right Description i have above the cap for pvp (+5% expertise) and still i see very often that my target dodge or parry (and i don't talk here about tanks or rogue/ferals) even casters/healers dodge and parry like bosses. What is the problem it happens very very often and my target dodge or parry i lose rage from white hits or lose burst damage it's very annoying to get dodge/parry even with 5% expertise in pvp. Additional Information after 1 random bg i come to test on level 90 dummy and saw this white swings - 12 dodge in 1 min http://i.imgur.com/0UX1hWd.jpg http://i.imgur.com/CP6ZfiV.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t5bVcCW.jpg special attacks http://i.imgur.com/0KjpCzC.jpg Please take time to fix this bug. excuse my english is not my native language.
durham Posted March 13, 2014 Author Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) after 10 days testing some macros and rotation on dummy again :): level 90 target: http://i.imgur.com/2aMHma7.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ro6IbwB.jpg http://i.imgur.com/tk9FszW.jpg level85 target: http://i.imgur.com/UhjysaN.jpg i like what you do with the server and how things are going on here but pls. guys show some love to warrior class to. (and not just warriors - because expertise bug have a huge effect on all melee classes) Edited March 13, 2014 by durham
durham Posted March 22, 2014 Author Posted March 22, 2014 after 20 days lvl 85 target dummy (no boss) expertise 7.68% (2271) normal white hits dodge > http://i.imgur.com/qj1OBm9.jpg > rage gone special attacks dodge http://i.imgur.com/Cz1bYoc.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8B2Ypoh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/iVhSwJ4.jpg in arena is even worse and terrible. i expect parry from warr / dk (strenght give parry) is normal i expect dodge from ferals/rogue/ww monks (they have a lot of agility) is normal but other classes like healers / casters can't dodge or parry on some normal server. here they dodge and parry even from behind half of my burst is gone and half of my damage is on dodge and parry expertise bug half of my rage is gone > no rage = no damage guys, when you have time in next update pls fix this bug. is not only for warriors all melee classes lose damage. thanks
WwwRampage Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Confirmed for me too on my enhancement shaman, retribution paladin and other chars: dodged, parried or miss on targets which shouldnt be able to with abilities thats should not miss(not on mistweaver monks with dematerialize buff), example parry stormstrike from priest, miss stormstrike(and the priest was not night elf, that has 2 % chance to be missed), and this with expertise and hit chance much over their cap.
Dhurakan Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Becouse Miss, Dodge, Block, Parry values are from Cataclysm: Expansion 5%, in Mists of Pandaria these base values are 3 % (before modified by str/agility for specified class)
Indipender Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 What the guy says is only half true. If you got expertise hard cap btw is 6%, you can still be dodged and parried. Reason is classes have more that 6% dodge + expertise ratings. Miss on the other hand is truly bugged, you can miss with a melee even with 3.5%+ hitrating. But expertise is semi-okay. Only problem is classes have way more dodge and parry rating then they should. Especially casters who have 5% parry and 5% dodge isntead of 0 parry and 3% dodge. Plate classes have 20%+ parry here they have like 35%+ and agility classes have 15-25% dodge here they have 20-30%. The scaling is bigger. Still. Getting parried by plates and dodged by agility classes will always happen, but with proper expertise ratings you can NEVER get dodged or parried by a caster
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