eciepecie Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 Dear Administration, There is a problem with rogue's dmg. 1. Eviscerate 2. Full s12 rogue is doing 150k evis. Fully geared character can do up to 280k Eviscerate with a single hit, in Arena. 3. http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=2098 retail dmg in s15 is 120k with lucky full procs. 4. 28.06.2014 5. fun 6. 8/10 I suppose there is a problem with Mastery+Eviscerate formula, dying in a cheap shot is quite disturbing. Best Regards
Altxqt Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 That's not problem mastery , but it's more like agility formule , when u are gems full mastery u lost damage on eviscerate , if u are full agility u can get 15-20k per hit on Eviscerate , Just when u look proc from shado-pan trinket , that not give 9400 , but it's like 18k agility , coz this formul it's totally bugued.
nikifor96 Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 So you mean that the rogue damage is bugged? - - - Updated - - - you are so wrong.go to youtube and search for an user,named "vylla" and watch his videos.he have only 2 videos.he deals 190k with ambush or eviscerate, i dont remember.and write on youtube swifty rogue oneshot
uraganuu Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 He's not so wrong. Rogues here do twice the damage you see in those videos. Obviously, there's something wrong with the formula. 1
nikifor96 Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 No,it's not twice.Don't you see bro?Write on youtube rogue oneshot and you will see that they deal the same damage as here.Why I can't defeat a warrior like the video,named "swifty rogue oneshot"?Ambush here deals lower damage than retail's.I saw on retail there are rogues who deal 190k ambush,here noone do 190k with ambush.I will send you a private message with 2 videos to see the rogue damage,he is wrong...
uraganuu Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 The formula is incorrect when it comes to Eviscerate, not Ambush. Evis does 190kish on retail, but in here it does 290k. That's a HUGE difference. As for Ambush damage, make a proper report in the correct forum section. Eviscerate is broken, even tho rogues don't admit it. 1
nikifor96 Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 Dude,noone do 290k ambush here....i never did 150k+ with ambush..im full geared with 80% mastery - - - Updated - - - and okay,can you explain me what is wrong with this formula?on retail eviscerate deals 200k,here deals 200k too - - - Updated - - - ahh i readed it incorrectly.i readed that ambush deals 290k here :D.so,can you tell me who deals 300k with Eviscerate?I dealed max 200k on low geared ppl and on retails i watched a videos that rogues deal 250k eviscerate...
Homa-master Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) Damage OK, just http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=79147 give the double bonus of 35% for http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=2098/eviscerate http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=72934 http://s018.radikal.ru/i515/1406/1c/62910c7164f5.jpg http://s020.radikal.ru/i718/1406/e4/32b87599cb0e.jpg The screenshot first 56000 With bleeding 102000 56000 +35% +35% = 102000 Edited June 30, 2014 by Homa-master 1
nikifor96 Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) Dudes :) okay,i have 2 questions: To Uragaanu: question 1:who deals 290k Eviscerate here? question 2:yesterday I saw a dwarf rogue (in blizzard) who dealed 309k NON CRIT Eviscerate to other full geared rogue.How the damage here is OP?I never did 290k eviscerate,I deal max 200k eviscerate here and think over it - the dwarf rogue in blizzard dealed 309k non crit,here when I use burst (trinket + x2 dancing steels + engineering enchant for gloves for agility + shadow blades) I deal 200k eviscerate and its lesser damage that retail.the dwarf rogue dealed 300k and i deal 200k and you tell me that here the damage is OP,how can you explain it? :) http://youtu.be/lH6pmMIP58E?t=2m58s Edited June 30, 2014 by nikifor96
memesiscc Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) retail :5.4.8 pandawow: 5.4.2 we have grievous armor. .-. Edited June 30, 2014 by memesiscc
sygaden Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 Dudes :) okay,i have 2 questions: To Uragaanu: question 1:who deals 290k Eviscerate here? question 2:yesterday I saw a dwarf rogue (in blizzard) who dealed 309k NON CRIT Eviscerate to other full geared rogue.How the damage here is OP?I never did 290k eviscerate,I deal max 200k eviscerate here and think over it - the dwarf rogue in blizzard dealed 309k non crit,here when I use burst (trinket + x2 dancing steels + engineering enchant for gloves for agility + shadow blades) I deal 200k eviscerate and its lesser damage that retail.the dwarf rogue dealed 300k and i deal 200k and you tell me that here the damage is OP,how can you explain it? :) http://youtu.be/lH6pmMIP58E?t=2m58s You do realize that that the character has killed had orb that's why he did that amount of dmg because the dmg taken from orb....
nikifor96 Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) come on,didn't you see that in retails rogues deals 200k Eviscerate?...People make me laugh when tell me that there is no rogue that deals 200k eviscerate...go to youtube and watch some videos - - - Updated - - - now what? why he deals so much damage?I can't burst warriors like him in this server.I have insane burst...i can play this class perfectly,i can tell that im skilled rogue(nvm that in mop rogue is a little bit easier),I know how to burst and I can't kill warriors for 4 sec.You see that this rogue kills swifty with 2 eviscerates.At the end of the video he says what is his burst.What can you tell me about this?Here the damage is like in this video. Edited June 30, 2014 by nikifor96
eciepecie Posted June 30, 2014 Author Posted June 30, 2014 Dear Respondents I cannot agree with you because you are simply not right :P. Don't mention some youtube battleground videos. And one more time, we are talking about Eviscerate only. Home-master, screenshots provided are irrelevant. We are talking about formulas. When you were testing, you did not have a single proc item. Damage shown is false, not matching to my point. Once again, forumla is working improperly. 280k ARENA STYLE damage compared to 120k ARENA STYLE retail is hilarious. What's more you can literally spam 280ks. Consider my words one more time. Check live retail streams, not youtube videos entitled " BIG DAMAGE ROGUE PRO". Best Regards 2
nikifor96 Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) I don't speak about battleground videos.Dudes,sorry,I ask you with all good,but are you okay?Don't you see that there are rogues in retail who oneshot warriors?For example Vylla oneshot Swifty.It's normal to deal 200k damage with eviscerate and that is.Why to not see some videos?Swifty have a streaming video with a duels and Vylla was filmed how he oneshoted Swifty...what's wrong in the videos?Vylla had only Visions of Insanity,his poisons,the buff for mastery from the food(680 mastery buff) and that is.He don't use elixirs.If rogue deals 200k in retail on duels,so we must deal 200k here too.And we deal 200k if we have a proc.I have a friend who had a warlock with green items and I tested on him and I dealed 30k Eviscerate on 5 combo points without proc.If you reduce the damage,I could deal 15-20k...15-20K EVISCERATE?Are you crazy?Rogues have insane burst when they have proc.And I will tell you again,go watch some duels in youtube and you will see that there are rogues that deal 200k.And btw the rogues who deal 200k in retail are a little bit,because there are bursts which are insane,but noone knows about it.A lot of rogues in retail play on haste or only on agility.I have 84% mastery and It's normal to deal 200k.On arenas it's possible to deal 200k,because there are procs,armor reducing and etc...Just 200k Eviscerate depends on how you play.In this server I played with tuxedo set (now I don't play rogue,because I'm banned) and I told a lot of rogues to burst me and they are full geared,but AWFUL,they can't burst me and deal ridiculous damage(max 100k crit)...Vylla...Ampyx...they play only with bursts,Sensus,Mercader have differend playstyle.They can defeat you slowly,but with stunlock.Vylla and Ampyx will stun you for 1 sec and will kill you with all cd's.Ambush deals lower damage than Eviscerate if you play on Mastery.I have a friend in retail who dealed 190k ambush on a duel.Vylla have 2 videos and he ABSOLUTELY killed a rogue with 1 Ambush and 1 Eviscerate on a duel.Just my advice is to watch some videos and you will see that in duels rogues can deal 200k(without buffs too).....I'm bored of watching videos with rogues who make duels for 09328423 hours,because they don't know how to burst.I'm not professor Dumbledore,just I tell you the truth.You are talking bullshits.There are 3984753498523978 dueling videos with rogues that deal 200k eviscerate and you tell me that the damage here is broken.Eviscerate is good,one guy in this thread said that Eviscerate is good,just http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=79147 is bugged and he is right. Edited July 1, 2014 by nikifor96
Bloodcage Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 Do you even read? - - - Updated - - - Do you even read? Damage OK, just http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=79147 give the double bonus of 35% for http://www.db.pandawow.me?spell=2098/eviscerate http://forum.pandawow.ru/showthread.php?t=72934 http://s018.radikal.ru/i515/1406/1c/62910c7164f5.jpg http://s020.radikal.ru/i718/1406/e4/32b87599cb0e.jpg The screenshot first 56000 With bleeding 102000 56000 +35% +35% = 102000
nikifor96 Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 yea i read,are you retard?i told them that they are wrong about the eviscerate damage bug and I want to prove them that eviscerate is good and Sanguinary Vein maybe is bugged.Do you even read?
cidkmilord Posted July 6, 2014 Posted July 6, 2014 i think is mad cuz his class should not loss vs a rogue then is baby crying
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