Most OP classes.

[driun]

  Frostshotz said:

Rating doesnt matter that much,because u can have as much as u want rating,but skill is more important,because u can get someone to boost u.

By skill i mean not to use only 1 macro,because it can be countered easily by the following way:

pets(warlocks pets too)

holw of terror

ice block

trinket

alliance juming on your screen

and other stuff.

 

But what u said just killed me literally "so keep spamming and one day you'll be a god"

What if the other player does something u cant stop?

What if they trinket?

What if they use another spell to break your combo and u need to change the rotation immediatly?

Or do you know what even rotation means?

 

So just dont be a spambot with macros made by other players,because they may not work.

If u want to duel me and show u that i can kill u easily EVEN if u use all ur spells,go on x100 realm after 12-08-2014(12 august).

Im accord with you, but i rly /facepalm when that guy post his rogue guide. About Sensus rogue, i saw some videos and he's a not pro player, its so funny when i see ppl making Sensus like a god, he is just a retard boy, wich just post videos with him using one shot macro on 99℅ of time. Can you tell me how make him op with that , all ppl can do same as him, its just a burst, and he is bad, his burst its low for me oppinion, its not very swift like vylla rogue. He is subtlely rogue and takes like 5-7 second to burst some1, did you saw another sub rogue?? They macro kill you in 1-2 sec. And the most funny video from her its " skilled rog vs war" hahaahha, rogues are counter warriors and if you are supposed skilled you should kill them fast. His video duration take like 10-25 minutes for killing random warrior 1v1 in arenas. Please stop comparing Sensus and making him as pro. He just have no idea abour rogues its just like another normal rog playing without any skill i guess. ( this post its for ppl who think you can be pro just updatting videos in youtube 1 shoutting all)

[dotadoom]

  driun said:

Honestly, on this post i see a lot of ppl making warriors, hunters , locks, mages, etc... Very op class.

I didnt saw any post about balance druids, rly this class on this server its ok, but 2 important talents are bugged, for me in MoP one of the most op classes its balance druid, and normaly on retail when they made the 5.4 pach they became op with rogues. Be sure no1 can beat a good rogue bcz are so op on this pach, but what about balance druids?? Its the single class who can easily beat rogues and own them without problems, its like his anticlass. Well hunters and shadow priest are pretty good againts casters, btw a good balance player can counter them, maybe it took 10 minutes, because balance have one of the most best survival as dps spec. I rly dont care about ppl when cry and QQ about boomy when they lose and the tipical sentense " you are healing a lot" " stop running and healing you" its like saying to war "remove second wind" omg if you dont know how to beat boomy just shut up, ofc this class as another caster should run againts melee, why do you think they have force of nature ( bugged here) and have most healing spells than another dps class, bcz without heals boomy are nule in pvp, and yeah we need run, but i wont do it if the tree talent works, we rly need instant roots and an additional dmg from pets. I guess balance druids are pretty good in MoP and rogues too.

 

@driun

You are 100% right m8. I was there when Blizz releassed 5.4 patch and said "Hmm this time we will make boomkin OP so that he's the only one who can beat a rogue. Oh yeah, and lets make all other classes shit so people play only boomkin."

And the someone in the crowd said "And what about the #skillz?"

Blizz replied "Fuck #skills. This time Boomkim will be OP!! You don't have to play other classes. #Swag."

[JohnnyPoozang]

Rogues in Mop have never been op. Here they are because of Eviscerate bug, and who knows the others. Boomkin potential is above the line and it's fine for me, as in Mop is one of the hardest spec to master in PvP and as a result the "skill scaling" is extremely high. Take in account too that boomie sucked in PvP in last expansions, with a few good moments like in 4.0.6, so Blizz did a good job to show them some love finally.

 

Ps: Idk what are you talking about Boomkin being the only spec that can counter rogues, with my WW monk and feral druid I have always easy times against those freaking Eviscerate spammers.

Edited August 31, 2014 by JohnnyPoozang

[xemej]

bala is not hardest spec but most rng dumb spec, and op in 2s bracket

[StarCaller]

  sysx said:

 

p.s.1. most players in all realms of pandawow they're playing with hunter class which they do not understand and they play it for only one reason and which is it this: the hunter is buggy and lets play with it and kill everything what moves around.

 

I totally agree I have a hunter and it's like that "it moves it's dead" :D

[Kadis]

:warrior: :deathknight: :rogue:

[rumers]

every class is good in some way.hunter good in damage,rogue good in stunlock and tricky things,mages good in mass slow,warlocks good in dots and etc.there is no OP class if you know how to counter.L2COUNTER.hunter is good in damage deal but bad in deffense.warrior is good in both but it is susceptible on CC. Edited January 12, 2015 by rumers

[Arevon]

  dotadoom said:

@driun

You are 100% right m8. I was there when Blizz releassed 5.4 patch and said "Hmm this time we will make boomkin OP so that he's the only one who can beat a rogue. Oh yeah, and lets make all other classes shit so people play only boomkin."

And the someone in the crowd said "And what about the #skillz?"

Blizz replied "Fuck #skills. This time Boomkim will be OP!! You don't have to play other classes. #Swag."

Cant agree mate. windwalker monk against rogue is some fun shit . Tho not in here that much, as monk passive defensive and spell for kite doesnt work and they are really important.buuut maybe those bugs instead , make it even more difficult for monks and they find it as more fun . [ its each personal].

Like as Im playing monk myself , fun is how I force 90%of rogues to be runny bitches like they're supposed to be to not to sit on my ass and rub it with a dagger in 2 seconds , literally.The other 10% make me to go seriously. And I try to use that Parody of spell called "Transcendence" . Im sure devs laugh their ass of with their evil jokes like last changelog and since last changelog till this day! :)

Edited January 12, 2015 by Arevon

[Repitch]

rogue is the most op class #kappa

 

coming from fury warriors & mages rofl.

 

during mop, the 2s & 3s ladder were dominated by wizards & warriors (well, warriors & dks mostly in 2s, and wizards in 3s).

 

so every rat here, dont make up bullshit cause one class is countering yours. you all think that class is op cause of that spell. thing is, there's something called counters.

 

rogues -> warriors

 

warriors -> spriests & warlocks

 

spriests -> hunters

 

dk -> enh sham

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war rdruid -> rogue priest

 

hunter priest -> rogue mage

 

mage rogue -> mage priest (shadow)

 

 

 

you guys look at the duelling & 2s perspective. thing is, duelling & 2s were never balanced and NEVER will. if there's something you guys should be looking at, it's 3s.

_________________________________________

 

TL;DR:

 

Best healing class: Rdruid is extremely strong in both 2s & 3s. MW Monk is just the best in 2s. Just retarded how they never oom and never have to cast. There's actaully nothing to interrupt.

 

Best DPS class: This one is hard... JK.

 

2s/3s: Warriors -> Mages -> Warlocks (in 3s) -> Hunters etc...

Edited January 12, 2015 by Repitch

[dotadoom]

  Arevon said:

Cant agree mate. windwalker monk against rogue is some fun shit . Tho not in here that much, as monk passive defensive and spell for kite doesnt work and they are really important.buuut maybe those bugs instead , make it even more difficult for monks and they find it as more fun . [ its each personal].

Like as Im playing monk myself , fun is how I force 90%of rogues to be runny bitches like they're supposed to be to not to sit on my ass and rub it with a dagger in 2 seconds , literally.The other 10% make me to go seriously. And I try to use that Parody of spell called "Transcendence" . Im sure devs laugh their ass of with their evil jokes like last changelog and since last changelog till this day! :)

 

I was being sarcastic...

All classes are viable if within the right hands. That's why this game is interesting. Sure there are counters as Reptich said, but if you master your class you should have chances of winning vs any other.

[Repitch]

  dotadoom said:

I was being sarcastic...

All classes are viable if within the right hands. That's why this game is interesting. Sure there are counters as Reptich said, but if you master your class you should have chances of winning vs any other.

 

depends, really.

 

if you have a good enh sham vsing a bad dk, the enh sham actaully have a chance. BUT! if you have a good enh sham vs good DK, it shouldn't be possible.

[Arevon]

  Repitch said:

depends, really.

 

if you have a good enh sham vsing a bad dk, the enh sham actaully have a chance. BUT! if you have a good enh sham vs good DK, it shouldn't be possible.

 

 

Lets not forget that all depends on luck mostly - will that spell crit , will it hit , will my trinket /jade spirit/dancing steel proc etc.

[Repitch]

http://i.imgur.com/UbcoRjw.jpg

 

was a bit unclean in my first post.

 

best dps class: bm hunters ;) ;DDD

[fix]

what is this 1500 rating?

[Matukaa]

Did you seriously ask the r1 rogue whether he is on 1500??? O.o

[dotadoom]

  Repitch said:

http://i.imgur.com/UbcoRjw.jpg

 

was a bit unclean in my first post.

 

best dps class: bm hunters ;) ;DDD

 

Lynx Rush hit you for 7k

Lynx Rush hit you for 220k

 

 

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/353/279/e31.jpg

[Felxprod]

Most OP class in my opinion are Warriors, Rogues and Mages.

Nerfed classes/specs are Combat Rogues and MM Hunters. :)

[Frostshotz]

  Felxprod said:

Most OP class in my opinion are Warriors, Rogues and Mages.

Nerfed classes/specs are Combat Rogues and MM Hunters. :)

 

combat rogues?

well they do shit dmg but are SO FUN to play

i prefer them over subtlety

reasons:8sec kidney while u burst+killing spree so even if ur cced u can be doing dmg

[Felxprod]

  Frostshotz said:

combat rogues?

well they do shit dmg but are SO FUN to play

i prefer them over subtlety

reasons:8sec kidney while u burst+killing spree so even if ur cced u can be doing dmg

 

I wasn't arguing the class entertainment, i just said that they're nerfed. :/ + Agree they're very fun to play ^^

[Frostshotz]

  Felxprod said:

I wasn't arguing the class entertainment, i just said that they're nerfed. :/ + Agree they're very fun to play ^^

 

didnt want to think ur arguing sry xD

[lajnenzoe]

affliction warlock, elemental shaman and restoration druid

[Illusie]

we talk about panda-wow or about retail?

 

In panda-wow i can speak about it in prespective of Ele shaman.

well Everything is situational. And MoP seems in generally balanced to me. There skilled and there less skilled. But i'll name here few classes that really hard for me to play against (as Ele shaman)

 

Rogue: I see rogues opener / burst and it's incredible. in 2s with some classes and good communication with partner it's just insane. I went sometimes as Rshaman and i couldn't even pop something and i died or my partner.

 

Balance druids: are nice in 1s too duo strong heals and combat bugs of Panda-wow, which make you heal 300k in middle of fight just because you 'Leave Combat'

Almost every class in 1s with 'Leave combat' bug is great. you back to fight with 100% hp just after 1 casted heal.

I never saw Balance druid in arena. so I don't know how they are.

 

I tired Ele/Balance but i rekted so hard from DPS/Healer and my Druid couldn't keep me up.

 

Mages: Well for me they are really OP. They have high damage Frost&Fire for Arena, Arcane mostly in BG. They can block your burst with Ice block, or just use Alter Time. Silence you or things like this.

in BGs they always top damage. and in 2s they incredible. with good CC.

 

Warriors: I saw many warriors at 2s. they just train you so hard, slow you cc you, kick you etc etc.. and reflecting your strongest spells which sometimes is death to get your 100k+ damage back in your face. And most of them go with Rdudu that cyclone your healer, Fae silence him, Bash him, Root him. If he able to cast a heal its huge luck xD.

In 1s they are strong too, if you know to play them. I saw many times failed warriors but skilled ones are just insane.

 

Destruction Warlock: They aren't so OP in my opinion. I just mention them because Chaos Bolt+Shadowburn. And because you spoke about them.

But infact Chaos bolt is predictable and you can't Instant cast it like Pyroblast / Starsurge or many other spells from different classes.

The true thing is they can 200k-250k CB followed by Shadowburn and it's just too insane. If you cc'd healer and the player who gonna get CB+SB combo can't stop the cast. it's death sentence.

They are really strong at 1s too.

But i ain't saw many of them In 2s. I saw only few Affliction which are really great when Dampining start ticking.

 

People mentioned Hunters here. In my opinion they are not OP except one player that wreck everything in His way (Cawpunchx [i spell it wrong])

Dks I been never faced and fought them in Arena. So i can't say anything.

 

Mistweaver Monk: Really great healer with instant heals (spheres) when things fucked-up. Almost impossible to kick them and they have good mobility & pillar hugging. really crazy class for healing. Have good CCs vs everyclass.

 

Restoration Druid: OP healer, can do great CC chain. the Heals they do just great. Mobility. everything.

 

 

Most underrated classes.

 

Ele shamans: Yes the class I play. That true in Battlegrounds Ele shamans are really crazy in damage, but that because most of time we can Flame Shock 3+ players at once so our Lava Surge start procing, yet i saw many many players (mostly Healers) who tank my Ascandance lava burst with some procs like nothing.

In 1s we almost have no chance vs most of classes.

in 2s the damage is just not enough to kill.

 

I even checked few times if i can kill Restoration Druid or MW in 1s. I Just can't the Lifebloom+Rejuv is enough vs my 'filter' spell (lighthing bolt) and they just sit on 100% hp. and Lava Burst drop them to 70-80% which is easy to heal with just 1 Swiftmend.

 

Shadow Priest: Idk, about two months ago they were really OP with the PvE bonus, Mind Spike and Mind Blast hitted like 120-150k easy. And could melt people down very fast. but Now I didn't see many of them. and Most of time the damage is not that incredible. the DP is really nice. but the damage without it just not enough.

 

Retribution Paladin: In retail at MoP there was only one Ret at 2500+ rate. it was Mystic. and in Panda-wow they are not strong too. in this Expansion Ret aren't so strong. There only few Ret that really Amaze me.

 

Enchancement Shaman: The burst is really insane if skilled shaman do it right. but the sustain damage is not that good. lacking of many things (heals, root escapes, gap closer) I didn't saw many of them and if i compare them to Warrior as melee. They are not that good. (Maybe i'm wrong i just don't saw many of them)

 

 

Discipline Priest: Well i faced one time a Discpline Priest+Hunter and I lost vs them. But they are not strong healers, fast OOM and they are not strong healers in Retail aswell.

 

Rshamans: Not that strong In arena in my opinion. (Compared to MW and Rdudu)

 

I don't know what to say about Holy Paladin I saw them few times in Arena and I just lose to them as Elemental (Even Tremor didn't helped me). Turn Evil vs Humaniods is insane in my opinion. and few times i saw Paladinsteel healing insane.

 

Holy Priest: Idk there few really good and few really sucks that get oom after few mins, the damage reduction is insane in my opinion like 20-30% less damage from all sources. If i compare them to MW or Rdudu yet I didn't saw high rated Holy Priest.

Edited January 19, 2015 by Illusie

[Frostshotz]

dude the chaos shadowburn is a normal thing and they arent op at all,nor any1 in this server except 0.5% of the server can play them

+today i was just diggin for archaeology when i saw a full frost dk and disc priest in griev gear-i just havocced with glyph,conflag,stunned,chaos bolt,fel flame to get to last stack and they were both at 11% dk and 16% priest

i shadowburned gg wp

 

the reason why i started destro way back in wotlk when i started playing was cuz of the survivability

on saturday i went rbgs(rated) and faced full op team BUT their destro left me @ 11% and i had no cds

he popped everything but at the end i was fearbotting+my shadowfury got off cd right before the end of fear came so i won

[Matukaa]

you didn't mention ww monks, which is strange. However, there are only a few good ww monks, just like ferals. 90% of the ferals here suck so hard it's unbelievable. The ww monks, meh, they are not that bad, but only a few players are really good with them. I started to play ww monk a month ago, and I instantly fell in love with it (tho Touch of Karma doesn't work, and I lost faith in it's fix already). This is the only class that I am able to do 1v2s with. Okay, I'm not on a high rating 2k-2.1k, but I've won 1 vs two scenarios against double dps and healer+dps as well, not only once. If ToK would've worked, probably I would win even more. Once you get comfortable with that class, and you start using it properly it can do wonders. They are ridiculously strong in 1s, because if mobility, cc, heals and insane damage if needed. However, rogues eat me for breakfast in 1v1. Overall, I think ww monks are pretty cool. Both on PandaWoW and on retail

[Frostshotz]

  Matukaa said:

you didn't mention ww monks, which is strange. However, there are only a few good ww monks, just like ferals. 90% of the ferals here suck so hard it's unbelievable. The ww monks, meh, they are not that bad, but only a few players are really good with them. I started to play ww monk a month ago, and I instantly fell in love with it (tho Touch of Karma doesn't work, and I lost faith in it's fix already). This is the only class that I am able to do 1v2s with. Okay, I'm not on a high rating 2k-2.1k, but I've won 1 vs two scenarios against double dps and healer+dps as well, not only once. If ToK would've worked, probably I would win even more. Once you get comfortable with that class, and you start using it properly it can do wonders. They are ridiculously strong in 1s, because if mobility, cc, heals and insane damage if needed. However, rogues eat me for breakfast in 1v1. Overall, I think ww monks are pretty cool. Both on PandaWoW and on retail

 

they shouldnt eat u in 1v1

alltho karma isnt working save nimble brew for their burst opener and use karma to atleast absorb the dmg