mglasser Posted May 18, 2018 Posted May 18, 2018 (edited) Introduction [spoiler=Introduction] Hi, I'm Max, Maxuhmilli, Mintyx, Mendi or whoever you want to call me. I LIKE CLEAVES. I have been playing MW since its release and have had crazy adventures with the class. In the start of MoP (Season 12), I was a massive noob. I know, hard to imagine. I achieved a MAX rating of 2k as rogue and was very proud of myself. I then spent my hard earned money and boosted a monk at the start of Season 13, this is where to fun starts. I started slowly learning the class just as everyone else would with a new edition to WoW where I reached my FIRST 2.2 Achievement ever (2.3xp at this point)! MW was probably one of the worse healers in that current patch due to the lack of class knowledge, or simply HPS. Season 14 was like a new beginning for monks as people realized the REAL use for the Healing Sphere spell. With the discovery of the actual use for this spell, monks started appearing more frequently on both US and EU ladders. Towards the end of S14 I achieved my 2.4 Achievement and earned my first Gladiator title. Season 15! This was where most MW Monks started to shine. Being the highest HPS in the game, monks were incredibly good at playing with and against melee cleaves. Season 15 was one of the longest seasons in WoW. At the start of S15 I was the highest Fury turbo in the world (YES FURY). We were approximately 2500+ CR and slaying the noobs. Later on in the season as my reputation started to grow, I met some amazing people/players. I discovered the comp Beast cleave and achieved my highest rating of EXACTLY 3000cr and having 2 monks above 2900cr (3.1 MMR). MW Monks have many counters, making it a pure sniping class. Facing a mage as any other comp than Beast cleave, will almost certainly result in a horrific experience for the Monk (No matter how good we play). The Mistweaver Monk Class [spoiler=Overview]As mentioned earlier, MW Monks are great with and against melee cleaves. This is due to their instant healing, instant CC, and short cooldown defensive abilities for team mates with LIFE COCOON RING OF PEACE PARALYSIS. Advantages: Instant High HPS Good Mobility Immortal Disadvantages: Few viable comps (Relies on shamans) Extremely susceptible to CC due to Soothing Mist GCD Falls back on Mana Tea globals when Sphering Little to NO CC depending on comp (could also be a advantage :?) Talent choices/Glyphs [spoiler=Talent choices/Glyphs] Level 15 Tier: I mainly choose the tiger's lust talent. This is because it is a free root dispel. Example: If I'm playing TSG vs a Mage team, and the mage decides to poly my warrior out of a nova, I can tiger's lust to help him either connect, or kick the mage. If the kick fails, I still have a dispel available for the poly. The only other viable choice is Celerity in combination with the level 90 talent tier Chi Torpedo. I usually play this combination against WW monks in 2s, making myself extremely slippery. The basic strat is; Roll his roll. In other words, when the monk rolls to you, you roll away. You then have an extra Roll in order to close gaps for kicks or his Flying serpent kick. Level 30 Tier: Chi wave, Chi wave, Chi wave, NEVER anything else. Simply too high on healing output as well as a boost in damage. Works well in combination with the http://db.pandawow.me/?spell=115070 Passive, AKA Eminence. Level 45 Tier: Chi Brew, Chi Brew, Chi Brew, Grants 2 chi and Mana Tea charges, why would you play anything else? Very when falling behind on Enveloping mist casts with regards to Chi. Level 60 Tier: All talents in this tier are viable depending on comp/playstyle. Ring of peace: The go-to spell when healing Melee cleaves. Also a great defensive ability vs Melee cleaves. Charging Ox Wave: Very good if used well. Primarily used when playing defensive comps such as LSM. Leg Sweep: Good in comps that lack stuns like Beast Cleave! Or in 2s with a DK who plays with Silence. Level 75 Tier: Only Viable options for PVP: Healing Elixirs: Great when playing vs Melee Cleaves, or basically anything that isn't a caster. Diffuse Magic: Extremely under rated and EXTREMELY good/important. Play this vs EVERY Wizard Cleave or Anything that has a Wizard in it (even Warrior Mage). LSD is unhealable without this talent, acts as a 2 free dispels. Dispel DoT's off self and 90% less damage on dispel for partners (DOES NOT WORK ON PANDAWOW). Level 90 Tier: Only Viable options for PVP: Invoke Xuen, the White Tiger: I play this 99% of the time in both 2s/3s. It is a simple 15k HPS boost with regards to http://db.pandawow.me/?spell=115070. Chi Torpedo: As mentioned before, It is good in combination with the Celerity talent (Tier 15). Reforging, Gearing and Gems [spoiler=Reforging, Gearing and Gems] Just in case you don't know, Intellect is MW's Main stat. This is then followed by Crit, Spirit, Mastery, Haste. IN THIS ORDER. Reforging: Everything to Crit/spirit. EXAMPLE. If you have a crit mastery piece, reforge the mastery into spirit. Gems: Meta: Destructive Primal Diamon or Reflect Gem Red: Potent Vermillon Onyx (Intellect + Crit) Yellow: Smooth Sun's Radiance (Crit) Blue: Misty Wild Jade (Spirit + Crit) Races [spoiler=Races] :horde: :undead2: or :ork1: :alliance: :nightelf2: More crit and better racials, HUMAN IS BAD, more HPS is useless for a class with the highest HPS already. Horde is generally the better option for MW Monks Tips and Tricks [spoiler=Tips and Tricks]Port Placement: Remember to constantly replace your port. Make sure you can always port incase you get swapped on or find yourself about to be feared/Polied or any type of Crowd Control Aura Mastery: This is the first global I use when coming out of CC vs classes that have blanket CS's (Mage, Spriest, Warlock). Most Mages or even Spriests will use their blanket silences when you trinket 99% of the time (If its off CD). Using your Thunder Focus Tea QUICKLY could save you! Provoke: Probably the most underused spell in the game. You can taunt Mage/Hunter/X pets to break Poly/Trap/Wyvern/Scatter or even Blind vs RMP's while shadowfiend is up! It's easy to do and there's not reason to not be doing it. Use this macro: /cast [@arenapet1/2/3] Provoke Chi Brew: Chi Brew is extremely good due to its Chi granting effect. A lot of times I find myself Chi starved and wanting to cast a Enveloping Mist. The basic rotation for this is Renewing Mist -> Chi Brew -> Enveloping Mist. Pre-Hotting: Effective use of Enveloping Mist can save you and your partners some defensive CD's. Using Enveloping Mist when anticipating CC's is almost like putting a Cenarion Ward on your partner. Enveloping Mist and Cenarion Ward are the biggest hots in the game. Mana Tea: Avoid getting to 20 stacks of Mana Tea as much as possible. Don't let this interfere with your gameplay. Capping Mana Tea is seen as a waste of Mana and is simply unbeneficial. Comps [spoiler=Comps] 3v3: Tier 1: MW Beast Cleave (Marksman Hunter, Enhance, MW LSM (Affliction/Destro Lock, Ele, MW) Thunder (Warrior, Ele, MW) Chi H/DK (Marksman, Unholy DK, MW) Tier 2/3 depending on opponents: Turbo (Enhance, Warrior, MW) TSG (Unholy DK, Warrior, MW) 2v2: Tier 1: MW Warrior MW DK Tier 2: MW Feral MW Ele Macros [spoiler=Macros]Paralysis Macro's: /cast [@focus] Paralysis /cast [@arena1] Paralysis /cast [@arena2] Paralysis /cast [@arena3] Paralysis Saves a lot of time when targeting Party Cooldowns; /cast [@party1 OR NAME] Life Cocoon /cast [@party1 OR NAME] Ring of Peace /cast [@party1 OR NAME] Detox My famous Xuen macro: #showtooltip Invoke Xuen, the White Tiger /cast Invoke Xuen, the White Tiger /petattack /petautocaston crackling tiger lightning /cast Tiger leap /cast Dash Final Notes [spoiler=Final Notes]MW Gameplay heavily depends on partners and work best with Shamans due to their babysitting capabilities with range kicks, Grounding Totem as well as Tremor Totem. The general go-to strat for MW is sit back, relax, avoid cc and try your hardest to help your team mates with the minimal amounts of support you can give. (incapping off target, ringing pets etc.) Make sure to follow my twitch for daily streams! @ https://www.twitch.tv/mintyx Edited May 18, 2018 by mglasser 4
Worstworld Posted May 18, 2018 Posted May 18, 2018 Gr8 guide. Good job. Also i laughed so hard on the SAC image xD 1
Autschbatsch Posted May 18, 2018 Posted May 18, 2018 I just skipped to gems and closed the guide after writing this comment.
mglasser Posted May 18, 2018 Author Posted May 18, 2018 I just skipped to gems and closed the guide after writing this comment. the blue gem is a mistery!
mglasser Posted May 18, 2018 Author Posted May 18, 2018 Author, you have to delete font from spoiler code: select spoiler and click at the font->click at selected font to remove editing from text. but need like this (without any font): also you have to delete extra spoilers too :S I tried already. Seems to be bugged out. I dont have any extra [ Spoiler ] anywhere. :(
Autschbatsch Posted May 18, 2018 Posted May 18, 2018 Saying something positive cause I really became elightened by this amazingly written guide. 1
Surprize Posted May 18, 2018 Posted May 18, 2018 For the 2s comps isnt ww/mw, combat/mw and Hunter/mw worth consideration? Also could you get over some different matchups what your goal is and what talents to switch?
C9Winston Posted May 19, 2018 Posted May 19, 2018 Good Guide, appreciate it. Will read it as soon as my wizardry works again :beer:
landscape Posted May 23, 2018 Posted May 23, 2018 Гайд полный мусор, как и напарники в большинстве случаев. Играть монком можно только с воином, все остальное просто не захилите. Если вар мудило то вы скорее испортите мышку кликая под него, чем этот идиот наступит на сферы. Итог = использовать бот. Без бота лучше играть другим хилером, так как на протяжении всех времен существования проекта 90% сильных монков используют софт. Камни энчанты таланты и другое = совершенно ничего не значит если вы сферами не попадаете под напарника.
Bonaparte Posted May 23, 2018 Posted May 23, 2018 but where is your orb bot in guide , max? everyone can find thread where max got 5 bans for orbbot (on different monks) - but dont give up and make another one for keep using it. yup monks using orb bot for ez game and playing with pqr warriors. if warrior without pqr and monk without orbbot this is not so op comp at pandawow (mage priest have more power) - but at pwow 90% monk warriors abuse soft.
Developers Scorp Posted May 23, 2018 Developers Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) but where is your orb bot in guide , max? everyone can find thread where max got 5 bans for orbbot (on different monks) - but dont give up and make another one for keep using it. yup monks using orb bot for ez game and playing with pqr warriors. if warrior without pqr and monk without orbbot this is not so op comp at pandawow (mage priest have more power) - but at pwow 90% monk warriors abuse soft. Good thing server still has fair players. :troll1: http://www.bildites.lv/images/t3rrdnxy/122176/thumbnail.png Edited May 23, 2018 by Scorpionz 1
faina Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 Tier 2/3 depending on opponents: Turbo (Enhance, Warrior, MW) no way man, t1 for sure
Noneedholy Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 no way man, t1 for sure Lol ... Orbbot turbo yes, without orbbot MW turbo was for sure not T1
Важное Posted June 13, 2018 Posted June 13, 2018 #showtooltip Invoke Xuen, the White Tiger /cast Invoke Xuen, the White Tiger /petattack /petautocaston crackling tiger lightning /cast Tiger leap /cast Dash С русским названием спеллов есть у кого?
LICHER Posted June 13, 2018 Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) #showtooltip Invoke Xuen, the White Tiger /cast Invoke Xuen, the White Tiger /petattack /petautocaston crackling tiger lightning /cast Tiger leap /cast Dash С русским названием спеллов есть у кого? #showtooltip Призыв Сюэня, Белого Тигра /cast Призыв Сюэня, Белого Тигра /petattack /petautocaston Сверкающая тигриная молния /cast Прыжок тигра /cast Тигриное рвение Edited June 13, 2018 by LICHER 1
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