Most OP classes.

[Ryukn]

  Rukkus said:

Warriors are extemely OP. Warriors haven't been a fun class to play since WotLK imo. Warriors can literally make 2 or 3 burst macros and spam them. Although this doesn't take much skill, it is what most do and why any noob warrior is easily killed! CC them for the first 10-20 seconds until all their buffs wear off and they melt like butter. As far as DK, If you roll frost 2h will provide you with more burst for PvP, just be sure to use obliterate on your killing machine procs and don't waste it on frost strike. DW frost does provide much higher sustained dps for PvE, but in a PvP environment you will most likely always be moving so its hard to sustain up time on your target for DW to be viable in PvP. It may be ok against other melee classes but not enough to say it is better for PvP. Both provide peels and utility to any comp for arena. My advice would be to try both and play whichever you like more. Personally I think warriors are boring and prefer DK. I switch between 2H Frost and UH. Both are different play-styles and provide different utility. What works better depends on your comp imo. If you already have a partner that has good cc then I don't think uh is going to shine where 2h frost's burst will be much more viable. What makes a class good is the player! Practice, read, watch videos, cross reference, and practice some more! Don't ask the community because you are going to get personal opinion and rarely anything that is fact based! You can't even rely on the bug tracker because not all class bugs posted are truly bugged talents and are nothing more then speculation and/or assumption.

 

Yes CC them when they have 2 reflects, 2 interrupts, 2 stuns (3 if you count charge stun) and a fear that all interrupts cast

 

Good luck cc'ing a warrior that pushes buttons without instant cc

[uraganuu]

The bug with Eviscerate has been reported and so has the bug with Stealth becoming available in mid-combat, but it's nice how you chose to repeat everything I said with links and stuff then called me clueless.

I know about Subterfuge, I know about Subtlety mastery and I know about Eviscerate. Currently, Eviscerate is doing 35% more damage then it should and Stealth randomly bugs out. This is testable and observable by everyone.

 

Please refrain from talking about clueless people before doing a simple forum search.

[Lektzz]

Warrior arms (insane damage) MW Monks (Insane healers) Sublety Rogues (Really op in 1v1)

 

It's my personal opinion.

[Rukkus]

  uraganuu said:

The bug with Eviscerate has been reported and so has the bug with Stealth becoming available in mid-combat, but it's nice how you chose to repeat everything I said with links and stuff then called me clueless.

I know about Subterfuge, I know about Subtlety mastery and I know about Eviscerate. Currently, Eviscerate is doing 35% more damage then it should and Stealth randomly bugs out. This is testable and observable by everyone.

 

Please refrain from talking about clueless people before doing a simple forum search.

 

??? I don't need to do a forum search, I play a rogue and from my experience stealth works as it should! I have not seen any bugs or glitches with it at all? It's not that hard to sprint away and get out of combat range and stealth again without using vanish. I linked the spells to show that not only do rogues have stealth they have 2 vanishes as well! As far as eviscerate doing too much damage... lol Once again, stacking mastery increases the damage of your "finishing moves" eviscerate happens to be a finishing move! I've seen countless forums and videos of semi geared rogues critting for over 300k so I still don't see how its is doing 35% too much damage? Do the math... with proc trinket, on use trinkets, racials like blood fury, engineering gloves, and tailoring enchant, it is not unheard of eviscerates hitting that hard even in retail!

 

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  Ryukn said:

Yes CC them when they have 2 reflects, 2 interrupts, 2 stuns (3 if you count charge stun) and a fear that all interrupts cast

 

Good luck cc'ing a warrior that pushes buttons without instant cc

 

I wasn't referring to an experienced warrior. I was refering to the noob warriors that blow all cds and spam 2 or 3 buttons. There is a dramatic difference and is easy to see when you PvP them.

Edited July 7, 2014 by Rukkus
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[uraganuu]

Sanguinary Vein is bugged, granting an extra 35%. People did the math and it's true.

This server isn't retail. Retail is working on another patch, better season gear etc, so stop comparing damage to retail one.

 

If you had done a forum search, we wouldn't be argueing on something that's literally being discussed right now, on several pages.

[Rukkus]

  uraganuu said:

Sanguinary Vein is bugged, granting an extra 35%. People did the math and it's true.

This server isn't retail. Retail is working on another patch, better season gear etc, so stop comparing damage to retail one.

 

If you had done a forum search, we wouldn't be argueing on something that's literally being discussed right now, on several pages.

I still don't see how anyone can say that it is bugged? Firstly stacking mastery increases your finishing moves damage Mastery: Executioner Find Weakness ignores 100% armor. Along with Sanguinary Vein for 35%, Master of Subtlety for 10%, Prey on the Weak for 10%, for a total of 55% bonus damage. If they use the talent Nightstalker it's 50% + Sanguinary Vein for 35% for a total of 85% bonus damage.

 

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I don't believe the damage increase is incorrect! From my own personal experience and countless forums and videos, most will NOT live through a sub rogue's opener!

[Immobilize]

Most OP - BM hunter due 75% heal reduce and UHdk cause of the runic power regeneration. :blush:

[uraganuu]

  Rukkus said:

I still don't see how anyone can say that it is bugged? Firstly stacking mastery increases your finishing moves damage Mastery: Executioner Find Weakness ignores 100% armor. Along with Sanguinary Vein for 35%, Master of Subtlety for 10%, Prey on the Weak for 10%, for a total of 55% bonus damage. If they use the talent Nightstalker it's 50% + Sanguinary Vein for 35% for a total of 85% bonus damage.

 

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I don't believe the damage increase is incorrect! From my own personal experience and countless forums and videos, most will NOT live through a sub rogue's opener!

 

The part on Sanguinary Vein that says "and causes you to deal 35% additional damage" is bugged. That 35% is actually 70%, resulting in huge imbalance.

Your personal experience is only that, personal. You didn't go through 15.000 tests to see if this is working as intended, but other did and confirmed it. Also, I repeat, youtube videos where WoW "legends" own people in a 3 second window isn't actual facts aswell. Those people are mostly ganking low geared people, or they do it when they meet the ideal conditions for a perfect burst, wich isn't really factual evidence, but situational.

Do some testing, rigorous testing, then claim that "you know your class and I see people owning people in the opener OMG LOL!". In a balanced game, a rogue should NOT be able to finish someone off in 3 seconds, actual 3 seconds, but in here, they do, because Eviscerate is bugged, dealing 35% extra damage...wich is HUGE.

[Exorcistas]

well if rogues crit 180k evisc. Do simple math. 180k- 35%= 117k evis with full burst + procs ??? In retail rogues owns ppl in globals so easy. Try to test more. k.

[Disae]

  Quote

If they use the talent Nightstalker it's 50%

it shouldn't work for SD abilities

it works only while u in stealth

[Tbf]

patch 5.4.2:

 

Most OP damage class -- Warlock-destruction or demonology

Most nerfed damage class -- Shaman elemental

Most OP healing class -- Monk

Most nerfed healing class - none :) all are good from my pov. But I would say disc priest since they are clothies.

[Frostshotz]

  Tbf said:

patch 5.4.2:

 

Most OP damage class -- Warlock-destruction or demonology

Most nerfed damage class -- Shaman elemental

Most OP healing class -- Monk

Most nerfed healing class - none :) all are good from my pov. But I would say disc priest since they are clothies.

 

Too bad-no disliking option.Destro locks are op as fck and ppl roll them and dont even know how to play them.Demo lock is bugged here and is nothing without bursted soul fire.

Elemental shaman-dont talk pls.They are op.OP healing class is monk(u said it).All they can do is spam healing sphere.gg wp

[JohnnyPoozang]

Warrior arms... too many fk gap closers and mobility for a spec with so huge dps and so good offensive and defensive cds.

Shield wall is a joke, rotfl... really? the warrior switches from a two-handed weapon to one in one hand plus a shield and no damage penalty? The fact a warrior can sit in a 40% damage reduction and still bursting like nothing happened it's totally bull""". Every other class when going defensive must sacrifice at least the damage (rpally spamming Wog, dks spamming Death strike or deathcoil+lichborne, enha shamans using mw stacks only to heal), but I guess warriors are special. I'm actually surprised blizz didn't give warriors a legendary this exp, like they did to rogues in cata.

uh and lol I had forgotten they can also sit on a 25% passive dmg reduction all along, while reckstorming ur team to death.

Edited July 23, 2014 by JohnnyPoozang

[Tbf]

Played a bit on this server and this is my update on most overpowered classes in-game:::

 

:warrior: - As JohnnyPoozang said above, warrior class is a little bit too overpowered. I am 2/5 griev on my warr and I do 150 execute crits and 120k dragon roar crits. You can check my video to see that I talk true :) and I was full tyrannical back then...

 

:rogue: - I do not know for retail but here, on Panda wow... This class needs at least 20% nerf.. Why? very simple... 120k evis crits are just sick ...

And many players abuse these 2 classes I did mention above..They go 2s as :rogue:/:warrior: comp and do 500k damage in 2 seconds.. just full burst :)

:monk: - I hate this class. I never played it and I never will play this class. Blizzard tryhard-ed to make a new class and made something simillar to death knights.. yeah.. mixed other class spells to make new class.. ok lets add silence, lets add few stuns, some roots, some CC, and of course disarm...And yeah lets also add 100% miss chance all time to monk healers to make them special :))

 

worst burst class:

none, all are good, I mean not all are equal but all classes do too much damage on panda-wow.. its no fun dying in 2 globals as healer.

worst heal class:

:paladin: this is from my point of view.. I really couldn't decide what else to put this.. Why :paladin:? because :warrior: can basically global it in 5 shots with his full cd-s... but aye bubble is there.. still monk never dies, since of 100% passive miss, :druid: is immortal, but main problem with druids is armor bug and yeah 5k mortal strike crits vs 500k armor druid :)) and priest is also buffed in mop holy is op ...

 

best healing class??

:monk:

 

In the end I will just say 2 words :..

 

fix Eviscerate

Edited July 23, 2014 by Tbf

[Harbinger88]

The title of Most OP DPS class has to go to the mages, I have no fucking idea how they managed to stay under the nerf bat radar for so long. The burst, CC, escape tools, pets, illusions, etc, simply insane. You don't know what OP is until you duel one, warlocks, warriors, rogues they are all bitch when you compare them with the power of the mage. I dueld many high rated players (from 2000 to 2700) the only class that beats me is always the mage I have lost so many duels vs this class it unbelievable, when i see a mage on a BG it's like someone is putting needles in my eyes.

 

The Most OP healer class is the monk. Do i even have to explain why?

I will just say that i did arena with a MW monk in starter gear and got to 2200 rating in few hours and i got the achievement Hot Streak, and Hotter Streak in one day. There is not much to say except they are OP as fuck

[Lektzz]

  Harbinger88 said:

The title of Most OP DPS class has to go to the mages, I have no fucking idea how they managed to stay under the nerf bat radar for so long. The burst, CC, escape tools, pets, illusions, etc, simply insane. You don't know what OP is until you duel one, warlocks, warriors, rogues they are all bitch when you compare them with the power of the mage. I dueld many high rated players (from 2000 to 2700) the only class that beats me is always the mage I have lost so many duels vs this class it unbelievable, when i see a mage on a BG it's like someone is putting needles in my eyes.

 

The Most OP healer class is the monk. Do i even have to explain why?

I will just say that i did arena with a MW monk in starter gear and got to 2200 rating in few hours and i got the achievement Hot Streak, and Hotter Streak in one day. There is not much to say except they are OP as fuck

 

What spec of mage are you talking about?

[Spookat]

What do you thing about destro and ele? Epic crits with ascendance+Lava burst and conflagrate+chaos bolt xD

[Frostshotz]

  Spookat said:

conflagrate+chaos bolt xD

 

Seems like you dont know the lock rotation do you?But abot ele its normal-ascendance,full burst,and mastery duplicating spells+echo of elements which duplicates the duplicated.

ele>destro dmg,because destro only has their chaos bolt,nothing like ele.And stupid mages block everything from destro.Only skilled locks can beat both classes,and to mention their cc+heals with almost no cost.

[sysx]

  Frostshotz said:

ele>destro dmg,because destro only has their chaos bolt,nothing like ele.

yeah elemental shamans can burst very fast compared to destruction warlocks so i agree with you and i still prefer destruction warlock..

[Frostshotz]

  sysx said:

and i still prefer destruction warlock..

Same here.But i can just fear them of their burst,forcing them to trinket then incomes my cc troll and burst and they used all cds in less than a minute.

 

I play destro lock only from like 8 months and im still winning 9 out of 10 duels against all classes(overall win rate).

[dfabel]

  sysx said:

yeah elemental shamans can burst very fast compared to destruction warlocks so i agree with you and i still prefer destruction warlock..

 

Shamans don't have much defences and in bg you can burst ppl but in arenas are so easy kill targets.

[JohnnyPoozang]

Ele shamans are nowhere near Op. Their defensive cds suck, if you're a meele and you know what you are doing the shaman is going down, it simply hasn't the tools to last long vs meeles. Plus elemental burst is completely Rng, here it seems they are op because mastery is bugged and Lava burst is duplicated 2/3 of the time. Edited July 24, 2014 by JohnnyPoozang

[Harbinger88]

  Lektzz said:

What spec of mage are you talking about?

 

I was dueling vs all type of mages i don't remember what specs they were but I remember not being able to move for the most of the duels. It's not always the burst they have but the CC they put on you, that is what is making them OP.

And the bugged arcane where i get hit by a 200K Frost Bomb and 100K Ice Lance it so nice when that happens.

[Tbf]

  sysx said:

i still prefer destruction warlock..

 

I prefer warrior for life... :C

they will get huge buff in WoD if you watched swifty wod all class burst, you would see that all classes needed at least 6.5 + seconds to kill their target, just bajheera with his war needed 1.4 seconds.

[Frostshotz]

  Tbf said:

I prefer warrior for life... :C

they will get huge buff in WoD if you watched swifty wod all class burst, you would see that all classes needed at least 6.5 + seconds to kill their target, just bajheera with his war needed 1.4 seconds.

 

Not everybody is like them.And they returned rend and some spells are removed so i think it could be a bit hard to play a warr so ppl could reroll to another class.

Heroic strike is gone(for arms)...This epic ability